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Old 04-25-2019, 11:25 AM
 
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Old 04-25-2019, 11:30 AM
 
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The Dickies did a good punk cover.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy6D12UiCCs
Never heard this cover before! I knew they did this Black Sabbath’s Paranoid:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QI40SS3kkMk
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Old 04-25-2019, 04:55 PM
 
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This is a great question that people have wondered about for years. Personally, I think that Jimmy Page just had an "overlap" of a playing style that had that same kind of rock and roll energy in punk music.
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Old 12-27-2019, 12:15 PM
 
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I would say the Kinks
Correct. The Kinks invented punk in 1964:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTTsY-oz6Go



And I think they may have invented grunge in 1966:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFkYoT5Gezo
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Old 12-27-2019, 03:36 PM
 
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If you look at Communication Breakdown and compare it to a punk song like Blitzkreig Bop by the Ramones they are very similar.
Nope, they're nothing alike.

Communications intro riff is an E pedal, with a D(No5)/A to A to D(No5) transition. The chorus switches A5-A6 and an Em(No5) highlight transitioning to a B5-B6 and a F#m(No5). There's a 23 bar solo in there too. In the key of E

The Bop is a I-IV-V straight power chord riff A5-D5-E5 (there's a II B5 used in the song chorus, but that's 4 total chords), in the key of A.

They're both high tempo, Zeps 4/4 at 175bpm, the Bop 4/4 at 180bpm (although they varied between 170bpm and 200bpm).

They're only similar if you're tone deaf and purely listening to the beat.
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Old 12-27-2019, 03:52 PM
 
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Correct. The Kinks invented punk in 1964:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTTsY-oz6Go



And I think they may have invented grunge in 1966:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFkYoT5Gezo
Agree. I think You Really Got Me also invented thrash metal.

As for punk Johnny Burnett's Trio MUST be mentioned.
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Old 12-28-2019, 06:03 AM
 
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Agree. I think You Really Got Me also invented thrash metal.

As for punk Johnny Burnett's Trio MUST be mentioned.
The Kinks never made a punk rock song.

Led Zeppelin never made a punk rock song.

Both bands have a few songs from their repertoires that bear some similarity to what would later emerge as punk rock. The vast majority of the catalogs of both bands have no relation to punk rock other than they all fall under the broad umbrella of rock and roll.

Anyway, songs like 96 Tears by ? and the Mysterians and numerous garage/underground bands - the direct precursors to punk rock (the Sonics, the Fugs, others) - were at it even earlier than the Kinks or Led Zeppelin.
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Old 12-28-2019, 11:08 AM
 
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The Kinks never made a punk rock song.

Led Zeppelin never made a punk rock song.

Both bands have a few songs from their repertoires that bear some similarity to what would later emerge as punk rock. The vast majority of the catalogs of both bands have no relation to punk rock other than they all fall under the broad umbrella of rock and roll.

Anyway, songs like 96 Tears by ? and the Mysterians and numerous garage/underground bands - the direct precursors to punk rock (the Sonics, the Fugs, others) - were at it even earlier than the Kinks or Led Zeppelin.
96 Tears is a good option.

The Troggs - Wild Thing (same year as 96 Tears 1966)
The Wailers/The Kingsman - Louie Louie (1963)

If you're looking for 3 chord fast tempo (kind of the hall mark of punk) richie Valens, La Bamba (1958).
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Old 12-28-2019, 01:05 PM
 
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In all honesty, communication breakdown sounds more metal than punk to my ears. Im a huge punk fan, from The Damned and Deadboys, to yes, Green Day. If I was ever going to credit any classic rock band with “inventing” punk, it would be either The Who or The Kinks.

This song sounds more punk than anything Zepp did:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qN5zw04WxCc
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History of the punk subculture
Origins
The phrase "punk rock" was originally applied to the untutored guitar-and-vocals-based rock and roll of United States bands of the mid-1960s such as The Standells, The Sonics, and The Seeds, bands that now are more often categorized as "garage rock". The earliest known example of a rock journalist using the term was Greg Shaw who used it to describe music of The Guess Who in the April 1971 issue of Rolling Stone, which he refers to as "good, not too imaginative, punk rock and roll". Dave Marsh also used the term in the May 1971 issue of Creem in reference to music by ? and the Mysterians. The term was mainly used by rock music journalists in the early 1970s to describe 60s garage bands and more contemporary acts influenced by them. In the liner notes of the 1972 anthology album Nuggets, critic and guitarist Lenny Kaye uses the term "punk-rock" to refer to the mid-60s garage rock groups, as well as some of the darker and more primitive practitioners of 1960s psychedelic rock.
The next step in punk's early development, retroactively named protopunk, arose in the north-eastern United States in cities such as Detroit, Boston, and New York City. Bands such as the Velvet Underground, the Stooges, MC5, and The Dictators, coupled with shock rock acts like Alice Cooper, laid the foundation for punk in the US.
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Old 12-29-2019, 09:42 AM
 
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The Kinks never made a punk rock song.

Led Zeppelin never made a punk rock song.

Both bands have a few songs from their repertoires that bear some similarity to what would later emerge as punk rock. The vast majority of the catalogs of both bands have no relation to punk rock other than they all fall under the broad umbrella of rock and roll.

Anyway, songs like 96 Tears by ? and the Mysterians and numerous garage/underground bands - the direct precursors to punk rock (the Sonics, the Fugs, others) - were at it even earlier than the Kinks or Led Zeppelin.
You Really Got Me is punk as ****
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