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Old 11-23-2021, 11:49 AM
 
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Yes, some residents of market-rate towers will have cars regardless. But the ratio will tend to drop quite a bit as the city gets more urban. A 1.5 ratio from 1980 might be a 1.0 ratio today and a 0.5 ratio eventually.

In the low-cost market, particularly on small sites, zero parking can make sense. On small sites, no/low parking might actually be the only way you can fit a lot of units.
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Old 11-23-2021, 12:29 PM
 
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Yes, some residents of market-rate towers will have cars regardless. But the ratio will tend to drop quite a bit as the city gets more urban. A 1.5 ratio from 1980 might be a 1.0 ratio today and a 0.5 ratio eventually.

In the low-cost market, particularly on small sites, zero parking can make sense. On small sites, no/low parking might actually be the only way you can fit a lot of units.
The other thing in Austin and I assume Nashville as well is that the downtown garages are big money makers on the weekends when people come in for bars, restaurants, shopping, events, etc. That's a big part of how you get buildings like 405 Colorado built.
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Old 11-23-2021, 03:01 PM
 
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That would reduce the cost burden, but structured parking generally doesn't pay for itself. They want it to help market the offices.
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Old 11-23-2021, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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The other thing in Austin and I assume Nashville as well is that the downtown garages are big money makers on the weekends when people come in for bars, restaurants, shopping, events, etc. That's a big part of how you get buildings like 405 Colorado built.

No doubt. People need a place to park if transit can't make up for it. It's kind of funny you shared that particular building. brandywine has been using the model of 405 Colorado as a placeholder for a proposed development at 21st and Market in Philadelphia, but they swapped out most of the parking garage and put the building on twin apartments: https://phillyyimby.com/2020/12/350-...city-west.html
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Old 11-23-2021, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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I think all three of these cities have only 1-2 areas each that are truly walkable by the standard of more urban cities, and even these areas are nothing particularly special on that front. But, Austin's central core is fairly walkable and very bikeable in the way that college towns often are (see Boulder, Ann Arbor, Madison, etc). I think that's the main difference comparing it to Charlotte or Nashville. All three cities include many suburban areas that are 100% car dependent.
>>But, Austin's central core is fairly walkable and very bikeable in the way that college towns often are (see Boulder, Ann Arbor, Madison, etc).

Nashville has this too Downtown and the Midtown areas adjacent to Vanderbilt - both very walkable and buzzing with pedestrian activity. Otherwise, it's sprawlville USA with nice views of the hills.
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Old 11-23-2021, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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Nashville has blown past most cities in the shear amount of new buildings, but I still find the KC skyline to be more interesting. I am bias though lol.

I did take these pics, so don't punish me for posting!





KC's urban core goes beyond downtown which you can see in the distance.

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Old 11-23-2021, 03:47 PM
 
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Recent pic I took of Charlotte.
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Old 11-23-2021, 04:27 PM
 
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Nashville has blown past most cities in the shear amount of new buildings, but I still find the KC skyline to be more interesting. I am bias though lol.

I did take these pics, so don't punish me for posting!





KC's urban core goes beyond downtown which you can see in the distance.

Impressive, KC is definitely close to Austin, Charlotte, and Pittsburgh. A lot of people underrate their skyline. I would put KC with a minor gap in fourth place.
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Old 11-23-2021, 04:28 PM
 
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Recent pic I took of Charlotte.
Charlotte is pretty condense, not as much as Pittsburgh though.
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Old 11-23-2021, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Charlotte is pretty condense, not as much as Pittsburgh though.

From a visual perspective, Pittsburgh has the benefit of the natural topography that draws the vantage point of the skyline to a single point. One thing Charlotte does have, which Pittsburgh does too, is nice distinctive trophy towers.

I always thought pictures of KC were cool when you can get the two cores in the photo.
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