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Old 01-25-2014, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Southern NH
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So, we reward criminals by giving their children lower tuition. Makes perfect sense...
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Old 01-25-2014, 10:00 PM
 
Location: oklahoma
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So, we reward criminals by giving their children lower tuition. Makes perfect sense...
it's all part of the master plan to get political power- that's all politics ever seems to be about
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Old 01-28-2014, 07:26 PM
 
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Pathetic, just pathetic. I read the first 4-5 pages of this thread, mostly I saw "They have a right to education, you're ignorant, blah blah blah"

Excuse me. I haven't seen any posts stating these kids should not be going to the schools. They are, however, trying to explain to all the brainwashed folks the they should NOT be allowed to pay less than people who are legal. Let them go ahead and go to our colleges, whatever. But start making them pay the price. It's so sad we cater our country to them. We give them all kinds of free stuff and they don't even care enough to become a legal, honest citizen. Take take take, and never give back. They are basically saying "EFF YOU" to our country and our people, and everyone seems to think that is perfectly OK.
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Old 01-29-2014, 03:42 AM
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We have separate forums where you can fight over politics or illegal immigration, created specially for that. This is a local state forum where you discuss local state issues. Please focus on that and leave the general political and immigration rants out of it.
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Old 01-29-2014, 04:33 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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A friend of mine has had to import legal farm laborers for generations because locals will not do the work for an affordable price. Tending the sales operation is one thing but tending the trees and picking the apples quite another.
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:06 AM
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Location: MA/NH
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A friend of mine has had to import legal farm laborers for generations because locals will not do the work for an affordable price. Tending the sales operation is one thing but tending the trees and picking the apples quite another.
But what has that got to do with NH having to give their (legal immigrant farm workers) children or the children of illegals discounted college tuition? My dad also had two imported legal Mexican farmhands in CA to work his ranch. They sent all their money home to their families in Mexico, their families did not live in the US. And their US earned dollars went a lot further in Mexico.

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Old 01-29-2014, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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If those laborers decided to stay in New Hampshire their kids would go to school just like any other.

I do not condone punishing children for the sins of their parents. Never have and never will.
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Southern NH
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A friend of mine has had to import legal farm laborers for generations because locals will not do the work for an affordable price. Tending the sales operation is one thing but tending the trees and picking the apples quite another.
Your friend is a criminal. He won't pay legal workers enough money to get them to work for him, so he employs illegals. He's as bad as those that employ child labor in other countries...
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:19 AM
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If those laborers decided to stay in New Hampshire their kids would go to school just like any other.

I do not condone punishing children for the sins of their parents. Never have and never will.
But "those labores" are here legally. Anyone here illegally shouldn't get any NH resident perks, not even their children. Those children are not being punished by any sense of the word. Just living in the US is a reward that they shouldn't be partaking of.

Illegals need to stay in their home countries and make it better, not abandon ship and try to blend in an American. Plus they do a disservice to their own children by removing them from their cultural heritage.
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:34 AM
 
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Chances are, the blueberries you sprinkled on your morning cereal were harvested by a Mexican in central Maine. The crisp apple you bought at the local farm stand was picked by a Jamaican “guestworker”. The outer roll of the stogie you smoked at a cigar bar was harvested by a Puerto Rican. Other workers have come from Florida, North Carolina, Guatemala, and El Salvador to harvest Christmas trees in Connecticut and strawberries in New Hampshire and to replant trees for lumber in far northern Maine.

Most New Englanders don't know these people even exist.

“The Northeast is an area that tends to think there are no farm workers at all,” says Daniel Rothenberg, author of With These Hands: The Hidden World of Migrant Farmworkers Today. “People miss that story.”

The average yearly salary of a farm worker in the United States is $7,500.

Nearly half of the farm workers in the Northeast today were born in Mexico, according to the National Agricultural Workers Survey. Almost all of them are young men without a high school education. And more and more are coming here illegally.

Technically, these people are not migrant workers, but are 'guestworkers' brought here on H-2A visas. NH businesses tend to gravitate to hiring these workers because they are diligent and hard workers. Unfortunately, they also bring their children to work even when they are school age. OSHA investigations discovered workers living in houses without electricity or water. It's basically a 'rent a slave' system where the workers can not fight the lack of minimum wage or the living conditions.

Farm workers are specifically excluded from receiving almost any benefit required by federal labor laws, including overtime pay, workers' compensation, the right to unionize, and child labor protections.



Migrant workers in New Hampshire at Wilson's Farm in Litchfield - YouTube
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