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Old 03-29-2011, 07:57 AM
 
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It doesn't exist.

There are other places that could be "up and coming" years down the road - Union City sticks out as one of them - but I highly doubt you'd want to live in a place like that now. Same way you like Hoboken now but wouldn't have liked it 20 years ago.

Seems to me the type of place you're looking for could be good as an investment but not necessarily a place to live full-time.
I find it hilarious the way you talk about Union City like its a dangerous dirty ghetto. Some parts of town are better than others visually, however crime is low and no part is as bad as a real ghetto like some areas of Jersey City where people actually get shot on the street. It doesn't fit the OP's criteria for a good school system, but the proximity to NYC is on par with Hoboken and judging by all of the condo's being built around town, it seems pretty "up and coming" to me. If you are racist, don't like diversity, and don't want to pay ridiculously high taxes, then it is not the place for you.

If you want a true Hoboken as it was 20 years ago, look in areas like Bergen Hill in Jersey City. Beautiful historical brownstones for well under $300k. Secaucus is bland and boring, the best thing about it is Giovannis Deli (best fresh mozzarella you'll ever have) and the super low taxes. Weehawken is very nice, I always think of it as a little piece of the suburbs in the middle of the city, but houses are expensive.
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Old 03-29-2011, 10:30 AM
 
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Hi Brian,
My wife and I used to live in Hoboken and moved to South Amboy 5 years ago. I would strongly recommend you check out the waterfront properties in both Harbor Village and Lighthouse Bay. There are both single family homes and townhomes there. The townhomes in Harbor Village on Raritan Reach Rd are mostly under $500k and all built in 2006. I think there are around 6 couples that moved there who used to live in Hoboken. There are two townhome models. The back units (Sables) are much bigger and have a lot of storage. The front units (Henrys) are a bit smaller, are above the garage and have zero storage. I would recommend finding finding a Sable. Some units have better views than others. Let me know if you have any other questions!
-Sam
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Old 03-29-2011, 10:38 AM
 
Location: North Jersey
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$300K or less is tough but not impossible in towns like Belleville or Kearny (non-manor section) or maybe even Clifton. All of these towns are pretty diverse and definately safe to live in. They might not be as picturesque as Washington Ave. in Hoboken (especially not in Belleville) but you'll definately find a 3br in your price range in a safe town with ok schools.

If you want low taxes and convenience to NYC check out Lyndhurst. It has a NYC train in the center of town and ok schools as well. You might have to go a bit more up in price range though to find something decent. Homes there aren't so "charming" IMO. But taxes are nice and low (I've seen houses with taxes in the 5,000 - 7,000 range which is low for NJ suburbs surrounding NYC IMO).
You can get something under 300K in a pretty nice section of West Orange if you look at a Cape. Many lot sizes in the Pleasantdale section of town are big enough that you can comfortably expand if you wanted to without infringing on your neighbor. The taxes are the only wild card.
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Old 03-29-2011, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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You think about Bayonne? It is affordable, close to NYC, and not a bad area. Has some restaurants/bars and things to do in town, and you are not far from Hoboken at all.

Obviously nowhere is going to skyrocket in value like Hoboken did, but I could see Bayonne going up in value

I agree, especially the new developments on the water, but there is only one Hoboken.

I know nothing about Maplewood, but I hear people rave about the town. I have even heard it described as the next Hoboken.
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Old 03-29-2011, 05:42 PM
 
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Red Bank New Jersey in Monmouth County
Red Bank is a very long train ride from Manhattan. Over an hour IIRC.
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Old 03-29-2011, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Red Bank is a very long train ride from Manhattan. Over an hour IIRC.
Close to an hour and a half.
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Metropolis
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New Brunswick has gotten nicer right in the downtown area. The western
part is a mix of students and illegals and the eastern part is all illegals. I don't see how the neighborhoods can gentrify unless most of the illegals are driven out.
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Old 03-30-2011, 03:02 AM
 
Location: Jungle City aka Jersey City
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New Brunswick has gotten nicer right in the downtown area. The western
part is a mix of students and illegals and the eastern part is all illegals. I don't see how the neighborhoods can gentrify unless most of the illegals are driven out.
Oh shut up. its racist idiots like you who shouldn't even be allowed to talk. Do these people have stamped on their heads "ILLEGAL". Please tell me what makes them illegal without having any contact with them. IF one side was all illegals wouldn't you think that whole section would be rounded up? Seriously don't bring your bullcrap.
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Old 03-30-2011, 03:07 AM
 
Location: Jungle City aka Jersey City
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This line of thinking is the reason taxes are so high.

The majority of New Jersey residents, including people from the NY metro counties in North Jersey, do not work in NYC.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! finally someone is getting the point that NJ does not revolve around what ny does or is. Still don't like any part of NJ being an ny suburb but it is. Hopefully soon people will think these same towns as suburbs to NWK or JC or Paterson for the towns further up.
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Old 03-30-2011, 07:24 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! finally someone is getting the point that NJ does not revolve around what ny does or is. Still don't like any part of NJ being an ny suburb but it is. Hopefully soon people will think these same towns as suburbs to NWK or JC or Paterson for the towns further up.
is it false to say that a very large number of people commute to NYC every day? i mean, isn't one of the main questions many househunters (rent or buy) ask is what the commute to NYC is? i don't work in NYC anymore, and my wife doesn't either, but I did start my career there and worked there for 5 years before launching into a NJ company. so it is a significant part of what this part of the state is at least.
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