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Old 09-21-2017, 01:57 PM
 
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Sleep apnea and severe obesity are mentioned as possible causes for both accidents.


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Old 09-21-2017, 03:03 PM
 
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...and in the wake of those avoidable tragedies, consider the fact that the tRump administration has nixed the requirement for long-haul truckers and railroad engineers to be tested for sleep apnea.

Why in the world would anyone want to prevent required sleep apnea testing of people piloting huge machines that have the potential to kill scores of people if the person piloting that device falls asleep?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ers/542657001/

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Old 09-21-2017, 03:15 PM
 
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...and in the wake of those avoidable tragedies, consider the fact that the tRump administration has nixed the requirement for long-haul truckers and railroad engineers to be tested for sleep apnea.

Why in the world would anyone want to prevent required sleep apnea testing of people piloting huge machines that have the potential to kill scores of people if the person piloting that device falls asleep?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ers/542657001/


Regardless of what His Orangeness does and or comes out of Washington, D.C. railroads are already testing for sleep apnea. Those that aren't likely will soon start. If nothing else the liability issues are just too great.


On another note have noticed for some time that a good number of train engineers seem to have weight issues. Am wondering just how common it is as borne out by facts and or does it truly affect performance in issues such as creating conditions such as sleep apnea.
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Old 09-21-2017, 03:25 PM
 
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Regardless of what His Orangeness does and or comes out of Washington, D.C. railroads are already testing for sleep apnea. Those that aren't likely will soon start. If nothing else the liability issues are just too great.


While I agree with you regarding the liability issue, I still have to ask why anyone would want to block a mandate for that type of testing.

On another note have noticed for some time that a good number of train engineers seem to have weight issues. Am wondering just how common it is as borne out by facts and or does it truly affect performance in issues such as creating conditions such as sleep apnea.
A friend of mine was a conductor on the PATH system for close to 40 years. He mentioned on more than one occasion that PATH engineers seemed to have a problem with the collapse of their seats in the cabin of those trains, and almost all of those PATH engineers subsequently submitted claims for Disability after those seat collapses. Surely obesity played some part in those seat collapses.

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Old 09-21-2017, 03:30 PM
 
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A friend of mine was a conductor on the PATH system for close to 40 years. He mentioned on more than one occasion that PATH engineers seemed to have a problem with the collapse of their seats in the cabin of those trains, and almost all of those PATH engineers subsequently submitted claims for Disability after those seat collapses. Surely obesity played some part in those seat collapses.



IIRC there was much pushback from the parts of the trucking industry and not necessarily railroads over the Obama administration rule. It was the same ole, same old; "we support these sort of changes to enhance public safety, but the proposed/current rule is to heavy handed and or expensive.....".
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Old 09-21-2017, 03:32 PM
 
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A friend of mine was a conductor on the PATH system for close to 40 years. He mentioned on more than one occasion that PATH engineers seemed to have a problem with the collapse of their seats in the cabin of those trains, and almost all of those PATH engineers subsequently submitted claims for Disability after those seat collapses. Surely obesity played some part in those seat collapses.


At this point not sure if it would make things better, but PATH needs to be absorbed into NJT. There simply isn't a reason for the Port Authority to run the thing, especially since like most everything else that public authority touches it is bloated and repository for politically connected.
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Old 09-21-2017, 04:14 PM
 
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At this point not sure if it would make things better, but PATH needs to be absorbed into NJT. There simply isn't a reason for the Port Authority to run the thing, especially since like most everything else that public authority touches it is bloated and repository for politically connected.

With NJT's fiscal problems, is it likely that they would try to absorb the PATH system?
What would be their motivation to absorb the PATH system?
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Old 09-21-2017, 07:05 PM
 
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With NJT's fiscal problems, is it likely that they would try to absorb the PATH system?
What would be their motivation to absorb the PATH system?

True, neither agency is any great shakes on many levels including fiscal; but the PA needs to scale back to their original mandate. Running a rail road, WTC and a few other things just aren't why that bi-state public authority was created.
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