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"Originally Posted by MJJersey There is an anti-bear hunt video on YouTube with a woman in her back yard messing with black bears to show they are not dangerous. She'll be the next person to get eaten."
Shades of Tim Treadwell!
Major flaw with that video is it does not translate to all BBs. To think like that is the foundation of prejudice that results in all the 'isms'. So you characterize a group by the behavior of one sample....hmmm what does that sound like? other than confused thinking?
Like the GM ignition problem, only a tiny fraction of crashes vs thousands having no problem. So is the GM ignition switch a problem?
To counter that video there was a guy in West milford killed by a bear.
Search the internet for more BB attacks, wiki has a list as well.
If it has teeth it bites.
If it weighs as much as you and has teeth, stay far away.
BB's are very smart and have been schooled well.
They know if you are sleeping, They know if you are awake, they know you are more afraid of them than they are of you.
Black bear on the loose today in Ridgewood. I wonder if he was just looking for a den in the $1M range, good schools for the cubs and a less than hour commute to Bear Stearns.
Treadwell was demented, anyone that has seen his films and listened to his rants can tell that. The fact that he got himself and his girlfriend killed was not surprising, what was is the fact that he went 13 years acting as if those bears were his personal pets before it finally happened.
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If it weighs as much as you and has teeth, stay far away.
An animal a fraction of a human's size is dangerous. I would hate to get a 20 pound bobcat cornered by accident, for example. Going back up to bears, a 150 pound female black bear can easily kill a large, strong man if she so desires.
I doubt it was designated "no camping" because there were bears in the area. Camping in state parks is generally limited to specific areas for liability purposes and so that parks staff can easily keep an eye on people. They don't want folks starting fires out in the middle of the woods, leaving trash, etc... So they cram people into grouped sites like sardines. I've got nothing against "renegade" campers who set up out in the middle of the woods away from it all (I've done it myself) as long as they clean up after themselves and observe good fire safety practices.
I understand that the "no camping" area had nothing to do with bears. My point was, which I clearly didn't make , obviously these people weren't geniuses.
People get eaten by mountain lions out west jogging in nature. Do they also cull them to protect the human population?
For the most part, the reason why joggers are attacked by mountain lions is that they resemble injured prey. A mammal trotting along the trail panting heavily presents itself as an easy kill for a lion, so they take it.
Why did they scatter and run in different directions? If they had stayed as a group he might have been fine. It doesn't make sense.
While I acknowledge that it was their running that likely set off the attack, I can't help but to empathize with them because of the situation. It is possibly the case that they had heard the good advice not to run before their hike, but they panicked. It's not easy to be relaxed around a large predator in the woods, and to keep a clear head while one is approaching you aggressively, while you are unarmed? Not sure if they knew better or not, but I know that it's an overwhelming instinct to leave the area when you find out that a bear is present.
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Originally Posted by Badfish740
Now consider the Apshawa Preserve where the attack occurred: Relatively tiny at less than 600 acres, bounded by busy Route 23 to the south, lake communities to the east and west, and more fragmented development to the north. My guess is that this 300lb four year old had become quite comfortable with humans, which eventually led to his and the hikers death. More expansive and suitable bear habitat can be found to the north and east in the area of Norvin Green State Forest, but that area is notorious for harboring a number of large adult males, who presumably spend a lot of time running off the competition.
Why didn't I think of that?
Last edited by NJmmadude; 10-01-2014 at 11:24 AM..
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