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Old 10-14-2014, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Central Jersey - Florida
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Im looking to live permanently in Hudson County but im beginning to see that the property taxes are ridiculous around there, with the low end starting around 8k a year. Ive seen as high as 14-15k. Its insane compared to the rest of the country. Between those property taxes and mortgage, I would probably need at least 18-20k for just that before all other expenses. Anyway I have a bachelors degree in liberal arts (yes I know ). Im also skilled in construction. But being such a general degree, how difficult is it to obtain a general job that pays at least 30-35k? Is it easy to obtain a job that starts in that range because the cost of living is more? I'm open to travel within about 30 miles of Hudson County in NJ, and Manhattan. The incentive of living in the metro NYC area is the eventual job advancement, but im just trying to figure out how rough it will be to start off.
My nephew lives in North Bergen up in the 80's just off Kennedy Blvd. He has a single family 3 bedroom home and pays less than 6K a year in taxes. Granted the property is not big (maybe 35 X 100) but it's a nice home with a beautiful back yard.
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Old 10-14-2014, 09:43 AM
 
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Im looking to live permanently in Hudson County but im beginning to see that the property taxes are ridiculous around there, with the low end starting around 8k a year. Ive seen as high as 14-15k. Its insane compared to the rest of the country. Between those property taxes and mortgage, I would probably need at least 18-20k for just that before all other expenses. Anyway I have a bachelors degree in liberal arts (yes I know ). Im also skilled in construction. But being such a general degree, how difficult is it to obtain a general job that pays at least 30-35k? Is it easy to obtain a job that starts in that range because the cost of living is more? I'm open to travel within about 30 miles of Hudson County in NJ, and Manhattan. The incentive of living in the metro NYC area is the eventual job advancement, but im just trying to figure out how rough it will be to start off.
In my industry (finance) and at my company we pay first year analysts from good schools close to a $100k base, plus bonus (bonus is small during the initial years). A three-year analyst/associate should have a base over $100k. Not sure what a liberal arts degree pays. Teachers in NJ do well and get outstanding retirement benefits, plus tenure.
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Old 10-14-2014, 10:13 AM
 
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I thought starting salary was about $60k (no less than $50k) for a white collar job that involves numbers. You only need a bachelors degree in a major that involves numbers (can be liberal arts).

I don't know why people deal with a horrible commute to Manhattan (or choose to live in Manhattan) and make less than that. I believe it is because people often assume they will earn more at the same job in Manhattan and don't even look at the jobs in NJ.
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Old 10-15-2014, 07:29 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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Most handyman jobs in the area, based on quotes I've received and friends have received, pay around $25-$35/hr. construction pays well if you can get hired by the right folks also.

i think it's not that difficult to get a salary of $30k or more, if you've got skills like you said.

i'm not sure what a degree in "liberal arts" is. is their a specific field of study? my college had a liberal arts school, where you could major in psychology, biology, etc.
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Old 10-15-2014, 07:30 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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I thought starting salary was about $60k (no less than $50k) for a white collar job that involves numbers. You only need a bachelors degree in a major that involves numbers (can be liberal arts).

I don't know why people deal with a horrible commute to Manhattan (or choose to live in Manhattan) and make less than that. I believe it is because people often assume they will earn more at the same job in Manhattan and don't even look at the jobs in NJ.
it's also because once you have certain NY jobs on your resume, you can command higher salaries elsewhere, in certain fields.
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Old 10-15-2014, 08:18 AM
 
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it's also because once you have certain NY jobs on your resume, you can command higher salaries elsewhere, in certain fields.
Maybe. I've never worked for an employer that cared where the job is (just what it is), but I can see that being the case in some fields. I believe that's also the reason people take "unpaid internships" (where they truly get nothing material, such as college credit).

In my opinion, it's best to do what's best for you today, rather than depend on the hope that it will lead to a better job tomorrow.
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Old 10-15-2014, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Randolph, NJ
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Maybe. I've never worked for an employer that cared where the job is (just what it is), but I can see that being the case in some fields. I believe that's also the reason people take "unpaid internships" (where they truly get nothing material, such as college credit).

In my opinion, it's best to do what's best for you today, rather than depend on the hope that it will lead to a better job tomorrow.
I disagree. Taking an unpaid or lower pay position to gain valuable experience can pay off immensely over choosing the higher paid option today which could be something like bartending. Following the logic of your theory, college in general would be a poor choice.

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Old 10-15-2014, 09:24 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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Maybe. I've never worked for an employer that cared where the job is (just what it is), but I can see that being the case in some fields. I believe that's also the reason people take "unpaid internships" (where they truly get nothing material, such as college credit).

In my opinion, it's best to do what's best for you today, rather than depend on the hope that it will lead to a better job tomorrow.
i don't believe it's rational, but in my experience, especially in accounting and finance, it's true. you go anywhere in these fields, and when they see "New York, NY" on your resume, they go nuts. and i've seen why also when it relates to the big accounting firms. new york offices are INSANE, compared to much more relaxed cultures in other offices. personally, i don't think it proves much, but i have seen employers place an irrational premium on it.
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:36 AM
 
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I disagree. Taking an unpaid or lower pay position to gain valuable experience can pay off immensely over choosing the higher paid option today which could be something like bartending. Following the logic of your theory, college in general would be a poor choice.

You're taking that post out of context - this is after college. Of course college is a good choice for many, there is evidence for that.

But I should have been clearer. I was just thinking of jobs within one's desired field, not do bartending because that's higher paying now.
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:52 AM
 
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I thought starting salary was about $60k (no less than $50k) for a white collar job that involves numbers. You only need a bachelors degree in a major that involves numbers (can be liberal arts).

I don't know why people deal with a horrible commute to Manhattan (or choose to live in Manhattan) and make less than that. I believe it is because people often assume they will earn more at the same job in Manhattan and don't even look at the jobs in NJ.
there simply aren't THAT many jobs in NJ, let alone "prestigious" ones. i am from NJ and would have LOVED to stay working there, but it just wasn't feasible.
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