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Look like people prefer more centralized socialism over giving individual towns the power to choose what they want. I wonder if those people feel the same about health care or education, or if they cry about socialism for those particular services.
I never thought about merging the actual towns of Cedar Grove and Verona, but I did think about the possibility of them sending their kids to one high school. Verona High School and Cedar Grove High School are both small schools... almost too small in my opinion. It seems ridiculous to have to separate high schools with only four or five hundred kids in each school. Why not just have one school? It's not like Cedar Grove and Verona High Schools are stellar schools. I'm sure they're alright, but there not top rated schools... so really they'd have nothing to lose in that sense.
As you cross the borders of those towns in the West Essex area, it hardly feels like you're going into a different town. I remember I used to drive up Passaic Avenue a lot through Roseland, West Caldwell, and Fairfield, and I could hardly tell a difference. As I drove it more and more though I began to notice the differences. Roseland and Fairfield do share a junior high and a high school. You could probably consolidate West Caldwell township and Caldwell borough, and probably call it Caldwell township. I know for a fact that the kids in those towns both go to James Caldwell HS and I think they share the same middle school called Grover Cleveland. They also share a public pool, a library, and a Zip Code if I'm not mistaking. You could easily consolidate those two towns. With Roseland, Fairfield, Essex Falls, and North Caldwell, those would be a little more difficult to put together.
In Morris County where I grew up, a lot of towns had separate townships and boroughs. Examples of this would be: Rockaway, Mendham, Chester, and Chatham. Freehold down in Monmouth also does it. They all had separate borough and township municipalities. I know for a fact that Mendham and Chester had separate municipal buildings, police departments, and even fire companies. This of course makes the taxes in those towns much higher. I thought it would be a good idea if Mendham and Chester boroughs absorbed into their respective townships, but then I realized that the people who live there want their taxes to be high, so that they can keep scummy people out. Most of them are rich anyway, so the don't mind paying 20 grand in taxes each year. I would know this, because I grew up in Mendham, and it's probably the same deal over in Chatham. That could also be the same deal up in Essex Fells, as to why it doesn't consolidate with Roseland or something. Rockaway I wouldn't know about.
Didn't Verona and Cedar Grove consider the idea of sharing the same high school a few years ago? After all, they are both small towns, and the high schools are close in proximity. But I think they changed their minds.
I grew up in East Hanover, and we shared the same high school (Hanover Park) with Florham Park.
I doubt that the Verona and Cedar Grove police depts. would want to merge, however. Ask anyone who regularly travels on Pompton Avenue through the Cedar Grove section. Cedar Grove cops are everywhere! The speed limit signs are far apart and the speed limits change suddenly. If you go 1 mile over the speed limit - busted! The C.G. police are lurking in every parking lot along Pompton Avenue, just waiting to pounce, especially late at night. I guess they need to do something between trips to the 24-hour Dunkin' Donuts (strategically placed on Pompton Avenue). No, I haven't been caught speeding, because I'm a very careful driver, but I've seen it happen numerous times.
I doubt that the Verona and Cedar Grove police depts. would want to merge, however. Ask anyone who regularly travels on Pompton Avenue through the Cedar Grove section. Cedar Grove cops are everywhere! The speed limit signs are far apart and the speed limits change suddenly. If you go 1 mile over the speed limit - busted! The C.G. police are lurking in every parking lot along Pompton Avenue, just waiting to pounce, especially late at night.
I've seen that too. It seems that most small towns have far too many police officers than they need and they end up just writing tickets for ridiculous offenses all day. And the urban areas that really need police officers never have enough. I'm all for merging departments, especially if it lowers my tax burden.
Look like people prefer more centralized socialism over giving individual towns the power to choose what they want. I wonder if those people feel the same about health care or education, or if they cry about socialism for those particular services.
this post makes no sense. yet, i bet you thought you had a great point when you posted this.
Now that the elections are over, Gov.-elect Christie can be BLUNT & let NJ know, Do you want to Lower your Taxes or do you want to keep your towns & schools as it is.
Christie & the party kept their mouth shut during the elections because the Goal is obviously to defeat Corzine ( just blame Corzine 100% for the Hottest issue of sky high Property Taxes).
But now that he has won & Corzine is out- HE CAN BE HONEST & BLUNT in telling Jerseyans who voted for him- Do you want to lower your taxes or not?
If you do, you will need to accept "Consolidation of Towns" & "Regionalization & Consolidation of School districts". That's is the ONLY REALISTIC WAY that New Jersey will see any drop in property taxes.
Christie's biggest challenge is the SAME PEOPLE, the SAME SUBURBAN TOWNS who voted for him due to the Tax Issue are the SAME PEOPLE, the SAME SUBURBAN TOWNS who are the MOST RESISTANT to consolidations, mergers, & regionalization of schools & services.
Christie will have to say ( although he would not say it because he is a politician), "Listen, either we do this OR just like Christie Whitman, Jim McGreevery, Jon Corzine- I WILL & CANNOT LOWER YOUR PROPERTY TAXES UNLESS WE DO THIS! We can now take off your blindfold. There is not much I or any Governor can do UNLESS we do this. We can cut excesses, try & reduce corruption- BUT THAT WILL NOT BE even close to solving this problem.
As someone who voted for Chris Christie, he knows & I know ( especially as a Republican in solid blue NJ) , that IF property Taxes in NJ continue to rise significantly in the next 4 years, he will be Out of Office in 2013 before he ever gets rid a single pound of weight on his body due to a diet program. And he better hope & pray that the National US Economy improves in the next 4 years or NJ is not going anywhere economically. Now that the elections are over, he can admit that NJ's massive unemployment are due in large measure to the national economic recession & the near collapse of NY's banking industry which directly & indirectly employees over 1.5 million Jerseyans. No more boogeyman Corzine to blame.
There are 23 much larger states than NJ who have LESS towns, muni's & cities. That says it all.
Holycrap, Folks, do you see the difference between an educated republican & a uneducated republican in terms of responding to postings. This is what I am talking about.
You have Michelle's response ( and other educated republicans as well) & compare it to CaptainNJ's , SteveMores, or Lusitan's postings . Its like day & night. Its like the Have & Have nots within the Republican party.
While Michelle's uses her education & intelligence to analyze a political discussion, you have a guy like Captain running to his radio to listen & writing down everything Rush Limbaugh says for 2 hours , then, runs back across the room to his computer to Write Down on the Forum everything he learned from Rush Limbaugh. This is without understanding or comprehending any other angle of the issue except whatever Rush said was right & correct.
Do you know what is the most scary part in all this? There are literally millions of CaptainNJ's spread across this nation. High school diploma angry people calling themselves conservatives.
Joe the plumber put a face on these people last year.
parents- Do your best to get your kids to get a college education. Otherwise, not all but many of them will not have the intellectual capacity to handle complex, deceiving, manipulative issues.
You add $50 million that Rush makes, $21 million that Sean Hannity makes every year & you realize how Huge this Uneducated market is.
it is very hard to cut government jobs. you think all the waste jobs in government are just going to sit quietly while they are cut out? thats the problem with all this waste, once you give away the money its hard to stop.
Holycrap, Folks, do you see the difference between an educated republican & a uneducated republican in terms of responding to postings. This is what I am talking about.
You have Michelle's response ( and other educated republicans as well) & compare it to CaptainNJ's , SteveMores, or Lusitan's postings . Its like day & night. Its like the Have & Have nots within the Republican party.
While Michelle's uses her education & intelligence to analyze a political discussion, you have a guy like Captain running to his radio to listen & writing down everything Rush Limbaugh says for 2 hours , then, runs back across the room to his computer to Write Down on the Forum everything he learned from Rush Limbaugh. This is without understanding or comprehending any other angle of the issue except whatever Rush said was right & correct.
Do you know what is the most scary part in all this? There are literally millions of CaptainNJ's spread across this nation. High school diploma angry people calling themselves conservatives.
Joe the plumber put a face on these people last year.
parents- Do your best to get your kids to get a college education. Otherwise, not all but many of them will not have the intellectual capacity to handle complex, deceiving, manipulative issues.
You add $50 million that Rush makes, $21 million that Sean Hannity makes every year & you realize how Huge this Uneducated market is.
you may get a kick out of this article (i know i did). i especially took pleasure in the insults made by the author. just like you, it all comes down to pathetic attacks on people's intelligence. oh someone doesnt agree with me, he must be stupid and uneducated.
you know why conservative radio succeeds and liberal radio fails? because liberalism is pure idiocy and cant handle the scrutiny of hours and hours of talk. the masses of democrats are just uneducated poor fools hoping that the democrats will win and hand over the tax dollars of the working people to them.
If merging townships and consolidating services would reduce my school taxes, I would merge with other towns. The school tax portion of my real estate tax bill is a staggering 55.83%.
My town already shares schools and a post office. Both towns have their own police departments, libraries, and trash pickup.
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