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Growing up in Cumberland County I always considered considered Tom's River as being "way up there in North Jersey" and as a boarder town for North/South (this is also before I knew of a Central Jersey)
I've brought up more than once in this forum that when I worked in Ocean County, there were some (two in particular) co-workers that commuted from Gloucester and Salem counties, respectively. They felt the same exact way about where they worked in Ocean County, that it was definitely considered Northern NJ. In fact, they considered anything north of the Atlantic City Expressway to be Northern or Central NJ, and commonly gave the label "scumbag New Yorker" to those who lived even between Trenton and Rt 70. To them, northern New Jersey was considered essentially New York City.
I've brought up more than once in this forum that when I worked in Ocean County, there were some (two in particular) co-workers that commuted from Gloucester and Salem counties, respectively. They felt the same exact way about where they worked in Ocean County, that it was definitely considered Northern NJ. In fact, they considered anything north of the Atlantic City Expressway to be Northern or Central NJ, and commonly gave the label "scumbag New Yorker" to those who lived even between Trenton and Rt 70. To them, northern New Jersey was considered essentially New York City.
That's almost as bad as people from North Jersey claiming "there's nothing to do in South Jersey and everyone lives on a farm." I've had people from Cape May County even tell me that I didn't live in South Jersey in Camden County.
Once I joined a meet-up type NJ social group, that had the majority of events in places from Tom's River to Asbury Park. Someone from up near NY posted "Why is everything held in south Jersey" and I wrote back "they haven't had anything yet in south Jersey!"
Once I joined a meet-up type NJ social group, that had the majority of events in places from Tom's River to Asbury Park. Someone from up near NY posted "Why is everything held in south Jersey" and I wrote back "they haven't had anything yet in south Jersey!"
yea, the New Yawkers think anything with a beach is SOUTH Jersey! lol
This poll kind of sums up the quirkiness of what New Jerseyans perceive certain 'border' towns to be associated with, depending on "North", "Central", or "South". Interesting, as you say that Red Bank, which is in proximity to the shore, is considered "South" by 46% of repsondents, versus "North" by only 20%, and another 19% which identify it (rightfully in my estimation) as "Central". Phillipsburg is identified as "North" by 28% to "South" by 24%, or a 4 percent difference to what should definitely be identified as a North Jersey town.
To me I think the dividing line is based on TV channels/sporting teams. If you turn on ABC local news and it's from Philly you're in south Jersey, if it's from NY you're in north. If the front sports page of the local newspaper is about the Giants you're in north Jersey, if it's the Eagles you're in south. Too simplistic?
This poll kind of sums up the quirkiness of what New Jerseyans perceive certain 'border' towns to be associated with, depending on "North", "Central", or "South". Interesting, as you say that Red Bank, which is in proximity to the shore, is considered "South" by 46% of repsondents, versus "North" by only 20%, and another 19% which identify it (rightfully in my estimation) as "Central". Phillipsburg is identified as "North" by 28% to "South" by 24%, or a 4 percent difference to what should definitely be identified as a North Jersey town.
growing up, everything south (southeast) of the driscoll bridge was "south" - central didn't exist to me. as I got older and my world expanded, my definitions have changed. I now consider it Central, and Central extends to the Ocean County line in my view.
Bottom line, it's all perspective with some definites sprinkled in (like P'burg NOT being South). It's comical to see people fight over it.
To me I think the dividing line is based on TV channels/sporting teams. If you turn on ABC local news and it's from Philly you're in south Jersey, if it's from NY you're in north. If the front sports page of the local newspaper is about the Giants you're in north Jersey, if it's the Eagles you're in south. Too simplistic?
Yeah, I think Toms River gets NYC stations and I believe that is South Jersey.
Yeah, I think Toms River gets NYC stations and I believe that is South Jersey.
It's deffinitly not South Jersey, personally I'd say it's North Jersey. They have more NYC influences than Philly. Overall, I'd say it's central. South Jersey ends somewhere north of Tuckerton/south of Tom's River.
Everything South of I-195 I consider South Jersey , Everything South of I-78 is Central Jersey.
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A poll that lends insight to the paradox
