better living in NJ or in CA? (Jersey City, Orange: school, taxes)

[Retriever]

Originally Posted by HalfFull

You understand the concept of percentages, right?

Cali is in the 2nd highest category at 15-20%, not exactly the union-free oasis that you paint.

Originally Posted by HalfFull

Also, if you look at figures from 2014 (your link was to 2005 data), you will see that 17.5% of employed residents in CA are represented by a union, compared to 17.2% in NJ.

There you go again, posting something that is fact-based!

Don't you know that the purpose of this forum is to espouse wildly inaccurate theories and speculations, along with rumors of nefarious left-wing conspiracies?

Get with the program, man!

[N610DL]

NJ is still higher membership than CA according to the chart. I know some of you hate to have NJ get criticized but accept the fact that many parts of CA is easily a better standard of living than NJ. Now get back to the topic.

[tom1944]

And many parts of NJ have a lower COL than parts of California.

By the way we do not mind criticism we just like it based on an understanding of factual data.

The difference between union impact between NJ and Ca, is a non-factor in determining the differences between the two.

[N610DL]

Originally Posted by tom1944

And many parts of NJ have a lower COL than parts of California.

By the way we do not mind criticism we just like it based on an understanding of factual data.

The difference between union impact between NJ and Ca, is a non-factor in determining the differences between the two.

Not really...

If you make 75K in Los Angeles you would need to make 73K to live in Bergen County. That's basically the same: PayScale - Cost of Living Cities - Los Angeles California and Bergen New Jersey for Marketing Manager

If you make 75K in Los Angeles you would need to make 123K to live in NYC. This is significantly more figuring most in Bergen or (North Jersey) and working in NYC and dealing with commuting and playing in NYC: PayScale - Cost of Living Cities - Los Angeles California and New York New York for Marketing Manager

By comparison, if you lived in Palm Springs at 75K, you would need to make 79K to live in Bergen County. It's all relative since you are generalizing a massive state as "many parts of NJ have a lower cost of living" which doesn't add up.

[tom1944]

Try anything south of route 195 is fairly affordable

[HalfFull]

Originally Posted by N610DL

NJ is still higher membership than CA according to the chart. I know some of you hate to have NJ get criticized but accept the fact that many parts of CA is easily a better standard of living than NJ. Now get back to the topic.

Sorry if YOU can't handle being criticized for presenting opinion as fact. Glad to get back to the topic, now that your statement is discredited: "I mean, that's Jersey for you. It's a union thug rewards state. Unions exist in CA but they are not nearly as powerful. There's also a sentiment in NJ that if you are in a union and will eventually get a pension, you essentially "made it." In Cali people view it more as a "crutch" and in some cases "pathetic." Entrepreneurism and creativity is king out here."

[N610DL]

Originally Posted by HalfFull

Sorry if YOU can't handle being criticized for presenting opinion as fact. Glad to get back to the topic, now that your statement is discredited: "I mean, that's Jersey for you. It's a union thug rewards state. Unions exist in CA but they are not nearly as powerful. There's also a sentiment in NJ that if you are in a union and will eventually get a pension, you essentially "made it." In Cali people view it more as a "crutch" and in some cases "pathetic." Entrepreneurism and creativity is king out here."

Sorry if YOU can't handle the fact that people live better quality lives in many parts of California compared to NJ

[HalfFull]

Originally Posted by N610DL

Sorry if YOU can't handle the fact that people live better quality lives in many parts of California compared to NJ

I can handle that opinion (and you don't pretend to have data this time), just as my opinion is that many parts of NJ have vastly superior quality of life to parts of CA.

[N610DL]

Originally Posted by HalfFull

I can handle that opinion (and you don't pretend to have data this time), just as my opinion is that many parts of NJ have vastly superior quality of life to parts of CA.

You don't have any data either. Roughly how many NJ's fit into size of CA? It's not even comparable.

Show me someone who would rather live in Morristown over San Diego. You won't find many.

[j0nx]

Obviously some parts of NJ would be preferable to parts of inland central CA. But on the whole, if my occupation didn't keep me in the NY metro area I would move to CA in a heartbeat. I go to Orange County about twice a year and wish it could be year round.