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The only way to sustain population growth is to have a continuous supply of natural resources and to keep building higher & higher sky scrappers.
True indeed. THe city can no longer expand outwards only upwards. If the city can put the bill they should suggest buying land from Nassau and Westchester Counties. It looks like the city may have to build skywards. Someday NYC is going to look like the city from that movie in BladeRunner.
I read that back in the early 20th century some guy had a plan to extend manhattan 4 miles and add landfills to staten island and the East River, would make sense nowadays(East River not so much), I read that wit would have doubled the size of NYC's dock and if it happened now it would bring lots of money into the city.
Yes, on Washington and Third Ave, 8-10 story simple constructions. IMO these are actually a better option than the suburban style and Fedder homes which did not fit in at all with the older housing stock.
In european cities they have succeeded in preserving and rehabbing the pre WW1 buildings, why not here?
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There is still ALOT of room for growth in NYC, there is just limited space in Manhattan itself. The outerboroughs have substantial space, and areas of the industrial South Bronx from the waterfront along Yankee Stadium down the Harlem River and swooping around to the East River have been rezoned and are just beginning to be redeveloped with dense housing/retail. This city can easily accomodate another 1 million residents, however the public transportation system cannot, and therein lies the problem.
Yes, on Washington and Third Ave, 8-10 story simple constructions. IMO these are actually a better option than the suburban style and Fedder homes which did not fit in at all with the older housing stock.
In european cities they have succeeded in preserving and rehabbing the pre WW1 buildings, why not here?
Most of the new housing in the Bronx is on lots that have been vacant 25+ years. I don't think European cities suffered from white flight forcing city governments/landlords to knock and burn down swaths of neighborhoods.
NY should keep growing, but we need to first solve our infrastructure problems. People have been complaining that the city is too dense and overcrowded from the 1600's. Thankfully we didn't listen to them. One of the most greatest aspects of the city is that it is dynamic, ever-changing, and hopefully -- forever moving upward.
As for the running out of land issue. Nonsense. There is still plenty of vacant litter-strewn underutilized land around the 5 boroughs. Also plenty of schlocky buildings and public housing complexes I would like to see redeveloped some day.
Most of the new housing in the Bronx is on lots that have been vacant 25+ years. I don't think European cities suffered from white flight forcing city governments/landlords to knock and burn down swaths of neighborhoods.
NY should keep growing, but we need to first solve our infrastructure problems. People have been complaining that the city is too dense and overcrowded from the 1600's. Thankfully we didn't listen to them. One of the most greatest aspects of the city is that it is dynamic, ever-changing, and hopefully -- forever moving upward.
As for the running out of land issue. Nonsense. There is still plenty of vacant litter-strewn underutilized land around the 5 boroughs. Also plenty of schlocky buildings and public housing complexes I would like to see redeveloped some day.
Not many vacant lots left in South Bronx anymore. HOUSING, HOUSING,HOUSING!
neither Manhattan, Brooklyn, the Bronx (well this ones close) are even close to their peak populations.
current statistic are 2009 estimates
Manhattan 1910 2,331,542 now 1,629,054 (the lower east side had almost triple the current population)
Brooklyn 1950 2,738,175 now 2,567,098
Bronx 1970 1,471,701 now 1,397,287
putting all 5 boroughs at there peak population would lead to a NYC population of 9,339,860 (current population 8,391,881)
difference 947,979 which would rank as the which would rank as the 11th biggest city (2009 numbers) in the country right above Detroit which (lost 938,648 people since it's peak) (Chicago comes in third at 925,364)
I think everyone is nostalgic for how things 'used to look', myself included. Impossible to stop progress & population growth though!
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