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Old 08-18-2013, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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This is rich!
The poor will use a separate door under plans for a new Upper West Side luxury tower — where affordable housing will be segregated from ritzy waterfront condos despite being in the same building.
Manhattan developer Extell is seeking millions in air rights and tax breaks for building 55 low-income units at 40 Riverside Boulevard, but the company is sequestering the cash-poor tenants who make the lucrative incentives possible.
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Upper West Side condo has separate entrances for rich and poor

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Old 08-18-2013, 09:25 PM
 
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What do you expect? You want first class accomodations, you pay first class prices.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:27 PM
 
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If I am allowed to live there at much lower rent, I don't mind at all. Different management without doorman will save some tip expense.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Newark, NJ/BK
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Just caught this on the news and that is just appalling. I don't know who in their right mind would be okay with that. If the developer thinks that low-income people are worthy enough to use as a tool to get a tax break, then they should be worthy enough to enter through the same doors as those who with higher incomes especially since the poor made it possible for this developer to build his modern glass atrocity that he calls a building.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:55 PM
 
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If the developer thinks that low-income people are worthy enough to use as a tool to get a tax break, then they should be worthy enough to enter through the same doors as those who with higher incomes especially since the poor made it possible for this developer to build his modern glass atrocity that he calls a building.
YES, exactly! The attitude behind this is disgusting. I know most are going to defend it but it is disgusting.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:03 AM
 
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This story sounds GREATLY embellished.

Yes, the market rate units face the water and have a western entrance.
The affordable units, are in a nice building- but are not facing the water, so they are all concentrated and they happen to have an eastern second entrance.

If it's raining and you lived in the 'rich' side, but were coming from the east side- you'd go in the 'poor' entrance to avoid time in the rain.
If you were 'poor' but had to check your mail before leaving for the day and that happens to be at the main entrance, so be it.

Separate maintenance sounded suspicious- but remember- these units are being sold as condos. The affordable units are being rented out, so it's natural they'd have a maintenance unit and it's quite likely and understandable it would be different than those in condos who need to maintain their own repairs.

This is pathetic journalism trying to get read.
Watch it get drastic lefties in a huff, they complain, and the easiest solution is tackled- the eastern building entrance is just sealed up and all residents lose a choice on entering and leaving the building.

In a fair world the 20% affordable units would be sporadically placed in the building and including water views, but in a fair world nonsense like 80/20 wouldn't exist and the tax breaks the building receives wouldn't have to be picked up by taxpayers of NYC many who pay market rate.
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Old 08-19-2013, 05:08 AM
 
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Wow the Post is such a rag. The affordable housing building is a rental and the luxury component is a condo. They need to have separate entrances else you would have the people who rent use the expensive condominium amenities. Even if this were not affordable housing and just luxury rentals, this would be the configuration.

And along the affordable housing side are other luxury apartments, it's not like the affordable units face a landfill. Or is it not enough that the lucky people who get these heavily subsidized apartments will get them at a fraction of the cost of their neighbor's prices, but now they must also get waterfront views? What's even sadder are all the liberal saps and politicians in the city who believe this is a real issue.
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Old 08-19-2013, 05:27 AM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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It's better than having them live in completely different parts of town.
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Old 08-19-2013, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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Fancy Manhattan buildings have always had separate entrances for "the help".In many buildings "the help" must use a separate elevator that leads to a back door.This is just a slight expansion of the definition of "help."

I am sure we will be seeing more of this in the future,as the stratification of our society grows.I wouldn't be surprised to start seeing separate bathrooms popping up in the future either.Historically,the rich don't really want to come in contact with the "help" any more than is necessary.The whole notion that we ever were an egalitarian society was an illusion that is rapidly being unmasked.

We are all just "the help" really.

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Old 08-19-2013, 06:19 AM
 
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If I am allowed to live there at much lower rent, I don't mind at all. Different management without doorman will save some tip expense.
I agree. The doorman will also not know all your business. Where can i sign up for the lottery for this building??
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