Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New York > New York City
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-30-2011, 10:52 AM
 
650 posts, read 2,516,876 times
Reputation: 299

Advertisements

Does have anyone have a good link to read up on this. I googled around and was not sure I found what I am looking for.

My downstairs neighbor is paranoid the apts are illegal because we all have 1 means of egress. I assume they are legal but no sure what the rights are for a 2nd exit.
Its a 4 family 2 story buildings(2 apts on each floor, I am 2nd floor rear).
There is no exit from the apt itself other than the main door. All apts lead to one hallway/stairwell that leads down to the front door.
There is really no other way out (short of going into a 1st floor apt and out the window, which I do not think counts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-30-2011, 10:58 AM
 
1,812 posts, read 3,358,060 times
Reputation: 751
call 311 they can give you a number to contact but let me warn you about 311 they can also be of no help. depends on the operator. Maybe you should contact your local fire Dept. and talk to them they can tell you an even fine your landlord if it is illegal. Firemen love when they are able to find stuff like this out because their lives are in jepoardy if they have a fire to deal with an the apt building has illegal rooms or apts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-30-2011, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
25,368 posts, read 37,053,451 times
Reputation: 12769
So your second means of egress is obviously out your back window. Is this conceivable without breaking your neck? Fire escape?

A fireproof building does not need this second means of egress.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-30-2011, 11:09 AM
 
34,017 posts, read 47,240,427 times
Reputation: 14242
Fire Department Rules
__________________
"The man who sleeps on the floor, can never fall out of bed." -Martin Lawrence

Forum TOS: http://www.city-data.com/forumtos.html
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-30-2011, 11:14 AM
 
650 posts, read 2,516,876 times
Reputation: 299
no fire escape. I could go out the back window, it seems survivable with many broken bones at least - it is good ways down because there is a stoop before evening getting up to the 1st floor.

But I see the point about being a fire proof building, trying to see how to confirm this. Its older (estimated build 1931). I thought the COO, although it is not showing on the DOB site (although I dont doubt it exists).
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-30-2011, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
18,462 posts, read 31,617,011 times
Reputation: 28001
If you are on the second floor get a fire ladder that stores under the bed and you can hang it out the window if need be.

We have a fire escape in the living room, but should we have a fire in there we have to use the bedroom window, which is not near the front door, so we have boat rope, tied in knots every foot and it is under our bed, should we ever need to get out in case of an emergency. it really is important that all apartment dwellers know what to do in case of a fire.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-01-2011, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
25,368 posts, read 37,053,451 times
Reputation: 12769
Quote:
But I see the point about being a fire proof building, trying to see how to confirm this.
In larger building they usually have this data posted somewhere, often the mailroom. Your insurance company wants this info.
A clue to fireproof is concrete floors and ceilings with stamped steel studs behind the drywall...no wood in the walls.
Another good clue is metal window frames.
The staircase must be completely enclosed in masonry.

(Failure to enclose the staircases in masonry cost the lives of lots of people in the WTC.)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-02-2015, 07:22 AM
 
1 posts, read 6,817 times
Reputation: 10
I live in a basement, with a slideing glass door and a regular door, but there next to eachother. Is this illegal?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-02-2015, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
25,368 posts, read 37,053,451 times
Reputation: 12769
Quote:

But I see the point about being a fire proof building, trying to see how to
confirm this
If you have wooden floors and wooden wall studs it is not fireproof.

Concrete floors and steel studs, very likely fireproof.

Quote:

I live in a basement, with a slideing glass door and a regular door, but
there next to eachother. Is this illegal?
Probably not a legal apartment.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-08-2017, 12:31 AM
 
3 posts, read 4,193 times
Reputation: 11
My apologies for writing on an old thread.

Can anyone tell me if fire safety building code is different for a sprawling old mill building converted to loft apartments than it would be for an apartment house? There is only one means of egress from the apartment. The only windows open onto a sheer drop into a river/canal. No window in bedroom. Does this seem OK?

Thanks for any information you may have.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:




Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New York > New York City
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top