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back in 1978 I remember riding the Liberty Lines bus northward on Madison Avenue past 96th street. Virtually immediately, there were abandoned buildings at 98th street and up and Madison Avenue looked totally intimidating
currently i have no reason to be in that area so i'm not familiar with it, but if I had to guess, i might think that Madison Avenue gradually improved over the decades to the point where you wouldn't see abandonment until say 115th or so? is this true?
i had also read a long time ago that the most dangerous part of Harlem was between the Harlem River and St Nicholas Avenue between 127th and 159th streets with the absolute worst corner being 8th Avenue and W 147th street, where anyone had a high chance of getting hit by a round of bullets
back in 1978 I remember riding the Liberty Lines bus northward on Madison Avenue past 96th street. Virtually immediately, there were abandoned buildings at 98th street and up and Madison Avenue looked totally intimidating
currently i have no reason to be in that area so i'm not familiar with it, but if I had to guess, i might think that Madison Avenue gradually improved over the decades to the point where you wouldn't see abandonment until say 115th or so? is this true?
i had also read a long time ago that the most dangerous part of Harlem was between the Harlem River and St Nicholas Avenue between 127th and 159th streets with the absolute worst corner being 8th Avenue and W 147th street, where anyone had a high chance of getting hit by a round of bullets
how is that corner today
Sounds a bit like the route of The Pelham Parkway -midtown express bus ,the BxM11.I think lots of The Bronx/Manhattan express busses use that route going up and down Madison and 5th from 125th street down to 23rd st.
Anyway,the thing I notice most from the bus as it is traveling through that part of Harlem is how many of the buildings( in some cases block after block) are occupied on the ground floor but completely empty and boarded up otherwise.
It's really eerie once you realize that so many of the buildings are abandoned except for the storefronts.What a waste of a housing resource.Very different from The Bronx where every available unit seems utilized and neighborhoods are packed and teeming.My guess is that big development companies own them all and were waiting for the right time to just level entire blocks and put up high rises.Who knows if that will lever happen now.They have been empty and boarded up for years but you might not even notice if you don't look up.
when Liberty Lines was only about 5 years old or so and the fare was $1.50 one way.......
Now it's $5.50 but I take it sometimes anyway...especially if I want to go to 5th/Mad area on the UES,central Park,Museums or whatever because it goes non stop from Pelham Parkway to 96th st in about 20 mins.
back in 1978 I remember riding the Liberty Lines bus northward on Madison Avenue past 96th street. Virtually immediately, there were abandoned buildings at 98th street and up and Madison Avenue looked totally intimidating
currently i have no reason to be in that area so i'm not familiar with it, but if I had to guess, i might think that Madison Avenue gradually improved over the decades to the point where you wouldn't see abandonment until say 115th or so? is this true?
i had also read a long time ago that the most dangerous part of Harlem was between the Harlem River and St Nicholas Avenue between 127th and 159th streets with the absolute worst corner being 8th Avenue and W 147th street, where anyone had a high chance of getting hit by a round of bullets
how is that corner today
Central Harlem IMO is still the worst part of Harlem. From 155th Street, over to St. Nicholas, then down to 127th, over to 5th, up to 142nd, over to 7th Avenue, back up to 155th. This to me is the worst part.
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They have been empty and boarded up for years but you might not even notice if you don't look up.
funny it was 1978
