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Old 08-15-2012, 10:49 PM
 
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Looking at apartment listings on Craigslist and other listing sites, is there a particular reason rents on the UWS tend to be more reasonable than other areas in Manhattan? I tend to see more rents for 1bd/ba around $1500/month there than everywhere else except the UES.
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:02 PM
 
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Yes, because realtors blur areas or just downright lie about them. It's really easy to say an apartment is on the "Upper West Side" when it's actually in Inwood or Washington Heights, because those areas are upper, west, and on the side.
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:27 PM
 
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Looking at apartment listings on Craigslist and other listing sites, is there a particular reason rents on the UWS tend to be more reasonable than other areas in Manhattan? I tend to see more rents for 1bd/ba around $1500/month there than everywhere else except the UES.
The reason is demographic change.

Once, not too long ago, the UWS was seen as the "poor cousin" (in more ways than one) to the UES, and so attracted many types that, for whatever reason, couldn't or didn't want to live on the UES. These "types" included artists, musicians, and the like. Nowadays, with gentrification being a major force in the city, many "artists, musicians, and the like" are moving into Brooklyn. The UWS is fast becoming the sister, rather than the poor cousin, of the UES (especially with places like Columbus Circle -- although some would beg to differ ) And just as there are places in the UES where rents are still fairly reasonable (think Yorkville and the East River), there are now places on the UWS that are reasonably priced -- the "trendy" big money is moving to SoHo/NoHo/Tribeca/Nolita, upper-upper middle to the Financial District, and everyone else (apparently) is moving into Brooklyn -- maybe Jamaica in 20 or so years will be the next up-and-coming area -- at least, it's already been zoned out, due to it's proximity to major subway/LIRR/bus routes.
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:49 AM
 
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Yes, because realtors blur areas or just downright lie about them. It's really easy to say an apartment is on the "Upper West Side" when it's actually in Inwood or Washington Heights, because those areas are upper, west, and on the side.

Or Poughkeepsie.
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:01 PM
 
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Looking at apartment listings on Craigslist and other listing sites, is there a particular reason rents on the UWS tend to be more reasonable than other areas in Manhattan? I tend to see more rents for 1bd/ba around $1500/month there than everywhere else except the UES.
1bd for $1500 is fake for sure
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Old 08-16-2012, 08:16 PM
 
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1bd for $1500 is fake for sure
There's a slight possibility that it's a studio; some in the UWS do go for that as a starting point .... for a 1Bdr it's more like $2.1k minimum.
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:18 PM
 
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I live on 69th (UWS) and pay 2,400 for a real (read: queen size) 1 bedroom with a kitchen that isn't a complete joke. That was about as cheap as I found. Most 1 bedrooms between 69th and 85th were 2500+. I think you'd have to go pretty far north to find anything much cheaper.
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Old 08-17-2012, 12:15 AM
 
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What about those neighborhoods near Columbia University? Are any of those real 1BDs (queen size) in the under $1800 range?
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:38 AM
 
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What about those neighborhoods near Columbia University? Are any of those real 1BDs (queen size) in the under $1800 range?
columbia is in morningside heights. two years ago I saw a very large 1BD for ~2k

so my thought is that it's possible, but quite unlikely, today. would be an amazing find

if by uws you mean harlem/wash heights/inwood then yes it's quite common

the reason the ads have such low prices is because many of the ads are calling harlem the "uws" which is untrue
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Old 08-18-2012, 05:04 AM
 
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I identify the Upper West Side with Street Numbers with 2 digits, not 3.
Realtors can call Harlem the UWS as much as they want to jack up rents, but that doesn not make it anything but Harlem. (And that goes for the UES too.)
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