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This includes NYC, Westchester, Rockland, Bergen, Hudson, Sussex, Fairfield and Long Island... No Orange and Sullivan, where the obvious choices atleast that I know of are located.
It depeneds on definition of poor no? Because most whites will look at a certain income as poor, as where most minorites will look at it as middle class? Put it another way, where are the poorest white's in the metro concentrated in large numbers?
take a look at this chart for Queens. The native white income is $53k/year. Not poor, but lower than many of the burbs and similar or lower to minorities.
What were the lower income/high crime White areas of NY back in the 50's/60's?
Hell's Kitchen? Brownsville? South Brooklyn?
Bensonhurst despite what all the people who lived there and have short term memory loss say, was a poor working class italian area with a heavy mafia presence all the way up to the mid 90s...
Also, you don't even have to go that far back to find poor/working class majority white areas in this city... Areas like Greenpoint/Williamsburg (94th precinct area not the 90th) were diverse in the 80s and 90s but were still majority poor white folk...
Sheepshead Bay
Ozone Park
Lindenwood
Ridgewood
Liberty Park
Kew Gardens
Astoria
College Point
Maspeth
Rego Park
Kensington
All of these areas fit the bill for what the OP is asking for in the 80s and 90s so to say that there hasn't been a poor working class majority white areas since the 70s or earlier is pretty ridiculous...
I'm not too familiar with the Bronx or Staten Island but by the late 80s and early 90s most of the poor working class areas in manhattan had already converted from being majority white to either mixed or full blown black/hispanic by that time... Hell's Kitchen was probably one of the last areas in Manhattan that had a significant poor working class white population but by that time it had a significant black/hispanic population as well...
In fact, even to this day, despite the over-gentrification of areas like Hell's Kitchen there are still parts of it where you see remnants of the 80s and 90s generation with the Puerto Rican flags still hanging on the delis or on apartment buildings along 9th and 10th avenues... Or complete sections of Hell's Kitchen that have building after building of low-income rentals where the population is mainly black and hispanic
For the second link, scroll up and down that block... You can see that within the next few years a few of those buildings will probably be replaced by condo buildings or mixed 80/20 buildings but the other 5 or 6 story apartment buildings on that block aren't going anywhere... The point of all this being that what you see on those blocks was starting to become the majority in Hell's Kitchen until gentrification really made a strong push in the mid 90s and changed all that...
First picture is of Bklyn outskirts of Boro Park. Might be Jewish. Second picture is Hell's Kitchen, is hard to read in terms of future or even present, could be yuppified.
None of those areas you mentioned were poor white slums in the 80's/90's except maybe Ridgewood. Looking for the 50's/60's old style high crime poor white slums. Possibly Lower East Side? 138th St in Bronx? Hamilton Beach? 34th Road in Flushing Queens?
First picture is of Bklyn outskirts of Boro Park. Might be Jewish. Second picture is Hell's Kitchen, is hard to read in terms of future or even present, could be yuppified.
None of those areas you mentioned were poor white slums in the 80's/90's except maybe Ridgewood. Looking for the 50's/60's old style high crime poor white slums. Possibly Lower East Side? 138th St in Bronx? Hamilton Beach? 34th Road in Flushing Queens?
for the first picture I meant to post this link in manhattan. It was in reference of Sonny's PR deli on 10th avenue... To your second statement we'll just agree to disagree... It seems like your now asking for two different things...
The OP originally stated he was asking about poor working class majority white areas left in this city... All of the areas I mentioned were poor working class majority white (at least 60%) areas at the time (in reference to the 80s and 90s). Furthermore to say, Bensonhurst wasn't high in crime is absolutely ridiculous and it speaks to the nostalgia people with amnesia seem to have about these working class italian areas back in the day... it's the same for Ridgewood... You have old-timers talking about the two murders that took place within a week of eachother and then saying how the neighborhood is going downhill and how it's never been worse... Meanwhile 15-20 bodies a year were dropping in the 104 in the mid 90s... Give me a break...
Same goes for Ozone Park, Lindenwood, Liberty Park (in Glendale at the time- heavy mafia area along with Ridgewood and parts of Middle Village near the Ridgewood border)... And as for Maspeth, here's an article that will shed some light as to how the area was described by the NY times of all sources...
None of those areas are poor, and College Point & Ridgewood nowadays are 50% White.
NYC hasnt had a lower-income class White neighborhood since probably the 1950s or 1960s.
Still would like to know what the lower income or slum white areas of the 50's and 60's were.
Guessing Brownsville/Hell's Kitchen/South Brooklyn were three of them.
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