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So you're saying a definite "NO" to that area? I haven't been to East Harlem so I know nothing about that neighborhood. Where above 96th Street do you consider safe and good places to live?
"Safe" and a good place to live are two different things. I think closer to 5th Avenue would be good and below 110th. Definitely do not move there if you have not visited. People have different ideas regarding what's tolerable.
There are some good side streets, in fact, some years ago, we almost took a place on 98th (?) I think, off 5th. It was quiet and clean and the building and apartment were very very nice. It was across from a parking garage - that's why we did not take it.
The project areas can be terrible in the summer. But maybe you do not mind ...?
There are shootings and a lot of them. There is currently some violent mugger stalking elderly Asian people.
If you do move there, Ricardo is a great restaurant. Patsy's is not so far either, I was never very thrilled about it.
You asked what is a suitable area for you to live in. Only you can answer that question of what is suitable for you. Your best bet it since you said you didn't know the area is to go there yourself. Asking on a forum isn't going to answer your question. What one considers safe and nice another may not. What someone considers the hood may not bother someone else who grew up in a worse neighborhood. Take the train to the neighborhoods you are thinking about, walk around the area for a while see how you like it and feel. Do this in the day and night time. But remember winter is a hard time to truly judge a neighborhood cause summer is when the true colors of a neighborhood appear.
Why not live in Queens or Brooklyn instead? I was born in New York City and I live in New York City, it's a much better idea.
Currently in Brooklyn. Would like to stay here but its getting very expensive. Believe it or not East Harlem is cheaper and its been a headache trying to find an apartment. I'm so tired. My next question is: apart from Craigslist, does anyone know where I can search for apartments? Doesn't have to be online but where is a good place to go to find a place (like a management company, etc.). I'm really having a tough time and Craigslist is all I'm using right now.
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Currently in Brooklyn. Would like to stay here but its getting very expensive. Believe it or not East Harlem is cheaper and its been a headache trying to find an apartment. I'm so tired. My next question is: apart from Craigslist, does anyone know where I can search for apartments? Doesn't have to be online but where is a good place to go to find a place (like a management company, etc.). I'm really having a tough time and Craigslist is all I'm using right now.
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Morningside Avenue - lower, as in not the first few buildings below 125th.
The side streets between Morningside and Manhattan - many are good. Between FDB and ACP many are not good, few are good.
Manhattan Avenue.
I would not go above 127th on St. Nicholas. I would not go above 123rd on FDB.
I don't know, Lenox and ACP always still seem iffy to me, perhaps less than East Harlem, though.
This was a useful insight. I've been looking for some street-specific insights on Harlem. I know it is highly subjective and personal, but I'm curious about your suggested boundaries.
When you say Lenox and ACP seem "iffy" to you, is that your feeling all the way up and down? Red Rooster is on Lenox at 126th. There are banks at 116th. But there are Taft projects down at 112th.
Why is 123rd your comfort zone on FDB and not 125th? Aloft Hotel is on FDB at 124th St. I'm just curious.
This was a useful insight. I've been looking for some street-specific insights on Harlem. I know it is highly subjective and personal, but I'm curious about your suggested boundaries.
When you say Lenox and ACP seem "iffy" to you, is that your feeling all the way up and down? Red Rooster is on Lenox at 126th. There are banks at 116th. But there are Taft projects down at 112th.
Why is 123rd your comfort zone on FDB and not 125th? Aloft Hotel is on FDB at 124th St. I'm just curious.
Thanks.
Lenox and ACP are funny. Around 125th, it is improving, but much above the restaurants it is terrible. Then, below, as you point out, there are projects - and social service housing, which people usually do not recognize until they move in. They look like regular buildings. Some of the side streets are okay but you need to move back and forth ... and sometimes things spill over.
The buildings just below the Aloft, east, are not good. On the west side are senior citizen apartments. That said, there is a new rental building opening just below, 123rd ? I think. It was luxury-ish co-ops, project went bankrupt, it was bought and will be market-rate rentals.
I don't know what your budget might be, but you could consider applying for the Balton. It was billed as "affordable," but by that they mean around $2,000 I think.
The school building is nice, across the street, but most are units are being de-regulated. I think I saw a listing for $2,650 recently.
I saw a listing for a place on St. Nicholas and 132nd, "eh" area, not terrible, just above the Hampton Houses - which are not projects - ML. They were bought last year and are undergoing changes. The place on St. Nicholas was $1300, I think ? One bedroom. I know the building, not terrible at all. Those apartments are rent stabilized but the landlord will not tell you - nor should you bring it up ! Until you are in.
Craigslist is a place to meet people, not just to consider a single listing. The agents have the same listings. If you respond to a craiglist post, the agent will show you other things and work with you.
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