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Old 08-27-2013, 08:42 AM
 
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Two words: Red Rooster.

Three more words: Bill Clinton's office.
It'd be great to have all the facts before making blanket statements.

ETA: I do like Bernski's suggestion for a Cheesecake Factory. There isn't even one within city limits yet. NB: The portions are huge. One entree could easily feed two people.
What does Bill Clinton have to do with cheap fast food places in Harlem??
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:13 AM
 
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It'd be great to have all the facts before making blanket statements.

ETA: I do like Bernski's suggestion for a Cheesecake Factory. There isn't even one within city limits yet. NB: The portions are huge. One entree could easily feed two people.
Thanks, Strawberryanise. In my opinion, you and NooYowkur (as us all) deserve to have option of eating at quality restaurants in Harlem that compare with nice restaurants in tri-state suburbs. Cheesecake Factory figured out how to serve decent portions of quality food that satisfy couples and don't scare two-income families who eat out infrequently. This is a good business model, NooYowkur. In 2013, all families deserve option of eating at cultural staples (Mana's, Sylvia's) or proven franchises that respect their purchasing power. Folk don't want to wait 30-45 minutes for text to enter restaurant passing off luke-warm seafood pots, stuffed shrimps, and weak side orders (fried onion bits, cole slaw teaspoons) as grand New York dining experiences. Thank God for Grand in Chinatown where you can buy & prepare home.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:27 AM
 
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What does Bill Clinton have to do with cheap fast food places in Harlem??
In response to your question:
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Since when did Harlem become upscale anyway?
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When Bill Clinton officially began his post-presidency in Harlem in 2001, he was greeted with open arms — thousands of them. At a plaza near his new office, at 55 West 125th Street, a crowd of 2,000 residents and civic leaders gathered on a hot July afternoon to celebrate the arrival of a neighbor whose presence, two blocks from the landmark Apollo Theater, seemed to put a presidential stamp of approval on the neighborhood’s revival.


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Thanks, Strawberryanise. In my opinion, you and NooYowkur (as us all) deserve to have option of eating at quality restaurants in Harlem that compare with nice restaurants in tri-state suburbs.
I'm surprised that Cheesecake Factory has opened up in the city yet. A number of other chains have already opened up in the city. (I suspect that the Cheesecake Factory might do well in Times Square.)
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:33 AM
 
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lol... Big deal... Bill Clinton moved out of that office years ago, so that's not really relevant now. The only reason Harlem is on the map is because people are being outpriced elsewhere, but the amenities are still lackluster in terms of options.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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Never been to a joes crab shack, but I imagine it being very similar to Red Lobster food wise but maybe a bit more "rustic" so a lot of steamed stuff. Just what I imagine. Like I said never been there...

To me chain restaurants aren't great but they have their place and are an improvement in places that have limited dining options.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:50 AM
 
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What does Bill Clinton have to do with cheap fast food places in Harlem??
I don't think this is cheap fast food. It's really more of a medium price restaurant chain. Different kind of business and different customer base.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:07 AM
 
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lol... Big deal... Bill Clinton moved out of that office years ago, so that's not really relevant now.
Correction: The William Jefferson Foundation's office departed, but he still has an office there according to the Times article linked upthread. It is relevant because as the Times said:
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the arrival of a neighbor whose presence, two blocks from the landmark Apollo Theater, seemed to put a presidential stamp of approval on the neighborhood’s revival.
Bill Clinton set up shop there first; afterwards the likes of Red Rooster, Starbucks, and AMC Magic Johnson Harlem 9 moved in.

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The only reason Harlem is on the map is because people are being outpriced elsewhere
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All I hear about and see are cheap fast food chains.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:16 AM
 
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Correction: The William Jefferson Foundation's office departed, but he still has an office there according to the Times article linked upthread. It is relevant because as the Times said:

Bill Clinton set up shop there first; afterwards the likes of Red Rooster, Starbucks, and AMC Magic Johnson Harlem 9 moved in.

Seems to contradict this line:
LOL! And you call Red Rooster and Starbucks "upscale"?
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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Thanks, Strawberryanise. In my opinion, you and NooYowkur (as us all) deserve to have option of eating at quality restaurants in Harlem that compare with nice restaurants in tri-state suburbs. Cheesecake Factory figured out how to serve decent portions of quality food that satisfy couples and don't scare two-income families who eat out infrequently. This is a good business model, NooYowkur. In 2013, all families deserve option of eating at cultural staples (Mana's, Sylvia's) or proven franchises that respect their purchasing power. Folk don't want to wait 30-45 minutes for text to enter restaurant passing off luke-warm seafood pots, stuffed shrimps, and weak side orders (fried onion bits, cole slaw teaspoons) as grand New York dining experiences. Thank God for Grand in Chinatown where you can buy & prepare home.
Both Manna's and Sylvia's are simply awful.

Manna's WAS good, at times, no longer. It is also very expensive for what you get. And if you do go, brings lots of reading material for the wait in line at the register. I have never seen people move quite that slowly.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:19 AM
 
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LOL! And you call Red Rooster and Starbucks "upscale"?
Red Rooster is ~$50/pp I would say. Not "upscale" per se but not what an average person would call cheap.
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