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Old 01-07-2014, 07:54 PM
 
Location: New York City
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This is the only place in the world where street parking restrictions are suspended when snow buries us. Everywhere else it snows, you are expected to move your car so they CAN ACTUALLY CLEAN THE STREET. I'm not sure which genius it was who thought it was a good idea to let people block the plows with their cars so that the snow never gets cleared until it gets warmer or rains continuously. Meanwhile there's nowhere to park BECAUSE THEY DIDN"T CLEAN THE STREETS.

Not to mention that trash hasn't been picked up in a week because the garbage trucks were turned into makeshift plows and felt the need to plow the middle of the same streets 50 times an hour for 3 days straight even when all the snow was already buried onto the side up against the parked cars who aren't being asked to move out of the way anymore

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Old 01-07-2014, 08:10 PM
 
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This is the only place in the world where street parking restrictions are suspended when snow buries us. Everywhere else it snows, you are expected to move your car so they CAN ACTUALLY CLEAN THE STREET. I'm not sure which genius it was who thought it was a good idea to let people block the plows with their cars so that the snow never gets cleared until it gets warmer or rains continuously. Meanwhile there's nowhere to park BECAUSE THEY DIDN"T CLEAN THE STREETS.

Not to mention that trash hasn't been picked up in a week because the garbage trucks were turned into makeshift plows and felt the need to plow the middle of the same streets 50 times an hour for 3 days straight even when all the snow was already buried onto the side up against the parked cars who aren't being asked to move out of the way anymore


That is because they are realistic.... where or where would you propose that they put all the cars ordered
off of the streets ? They and I believe in the God method of snow removal--- God put it there God will take it away.
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:13 PM
 
Location: New York City
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That is because they are realistic.... where or where would you propose that they put all the cars ordered
Same place they go every other normal alternate side day - elsewhere on another street, at work, or at a lot. The rules were established so that the streets could be cleaned, and there is no greater need to clean the streets than when they have just been buried in snow
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:15 PM
 
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This is the only place in the world where street parking restrictions are suspended when snow buries us. Everywhere else it snows, you are expected to move your car so they CAN ACTUALLY CLEAN THE STREET. I'm not sure which genius it was who thought it was a good idea to let people block the plows with their cars so that the snow never gets cleared until it gets warmer or rains continuously. Meanwhile there's nowhere to park BECAUSE THEY DIDN"T CLEAN THE STREETS.

Not to mention that trash hasn't been picked up in a week because the garbage trucks were turned into makeshift plows and felt the need to plow the middle of the same streets 50 times an hour for 3 days straight even when all the snow was already buried onto the side up against the parked cars who aren't being asked to move out of the way anymore

If you don't suspend alternate side when it snows moderately to heavily, you take away even less space to park for people. Think about if you were forced to move your car in the snow to look for another spot...when you find one you're gonna dig it out and put your car in?
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:27 PM
 
Location: New York City
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You're completely wrong. A two-second Google search will bring up results of multiple cities on the first page of results alone where this is in practice, like Cambridge MA, Bridgeport CT, St. Paul MN, Iowa City, Milwauke etc.

Here, let me Google that for you. Let me google that for you
Ironically for you, most of those results indicate that no parking rules remain in effect during snow events

Did you even bother to read your own results?

here's Iowa City:

"Alternate side of street" parking during a snow emergency

During a snow emergency, streets that normally permit parking on both sides of the street will be subject to "alternate side of the street" parking. On odd-numbered days of the month, parking is permitted only on the odd-numbered side of the street. Likewise, parking is permitted only on the even-numbered side of the street on even-numbered days.
On all streets where parking is allowed on one side only, if the permitted side (where parking is allowed) is even numbered, vehicles can park on that side only on even-numbered days. If the permitted side (where parking is allowed) is odd-numbered, vehicles can park on that side only on odd-numbered days. No parking is ever allowed on the side of the street where parking is prohibited by posted sign."


Likewise, there are restrictions on parking in Milwaukee during snow storms

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Old 01-07-2014, 09:23 PM
 
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Cannot speak for anywhere else but in much of NYC it isn't worth enforcing alternate side parking because the streets aren't going to be cleaned.

After a major snow event the Sanitation Department is all hands on deck dealing with clearing snow and ice from roadways and so forth. Since the City does not keep a separate fleet of trucks and personnel to deal just with snow removal, things are what they are.

When it comes to moving one's vehicle for ASP those that have not secured a space on the "right" side for that day do one of two things; sit in the thing and move it out and back to let Sanitation Department trucks pass, or double park until after cleaning has taken place then move into a spot. If street cleaning is not going to happen why subject persons to all that nonsense? Moreover if streets are clogged with snow you don't want already dangerous conditions made worse by persons double parking or whatever in order to reserve parking spaces.

The City looses a finite amount of money each day ASP rules are suspended. Yes, sums are calculated and are based upon the average number of tickets written for those that fail to move. So it is not without some penalty the City takes by suspending ASP, but again what choice do they have?

The first goal of snow/ice removal is to keep roads/streets open for traffic in particular emergency vehicles. Moving personal cars or whatever so streets can be "cleaned" or gutters plowed is of secondary concern.
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:28 PM
 
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here's Iowa City:

"Alternate side of street" parking during a snow emergency

During a snow emergency, streets that normally permit parking on both sides of the street will be subject to "alternate side of the street" parking. On odd-numbered days of the month, parking is permitted only on the odd-numbered side of the street. Likewise, parking is permitted only on the even-numbered side of the street on even-numbered days.
On all streets where parking is allowed on one side only, if the permitted side (where parking is allowed) is even numbered, vehicles can park on that side only on even-numbered days. If the permitted side (where parking is allowed) is odd-numbered, vehicles can park on that side only on odd-numbered days. No parking is ever allowed on the side of the street where parking is prohibited by posted sign."
You're right. I misread the OP.

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Old 01-08-2014, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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1. With millions of cars, where would people park their cars if they don't have a garage?

2. How often does a snowstorm occur and how long does snow usually last and stick on ground? It melts pretty quickly anyway.
Excellent points.

This a common sense measure, which the OP clearly lacks.
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Old 01-08-2014, 06:28 AM
 
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Same place they go every other normal alternate side day - elsewhere on another street, at work, or at a lot. The rules were established so that the streets could be cleaned, and there is no greater need to clean the streets than when they have just been buried in snow
Clearly you have no clue of how the system works and how your plan would not work in a storm. Let's hope that you never run for office.
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Old 01-08-2014, 06:33 AM
 
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Valuable insight as always, Bevis

Don't take offense when you have been caught making an absurd suggestion as you did in the original post.
There is no defense for stupidity.
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