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All of the art galleries, bars, and clubs that I used to go to as a young adult are long gone. I loved Manhattan in the 80's and 90's. It was so much fun...
All of the art galleries, bars, and clubs that I used to go to as a young adult are long gone. I loved Manhattan in the 80's and 90's. It was so much fun...
No sense wallowing in nostalgia. There's a good party/cultural scene in other cities. Heck, Philadelphia is a shorter drive than some subway rides into Midtown, and you'll be able to get a lot more mileage out of your dollar
This is about the 5th or 6th thread I've seen today on how NYC is changing... I don't disagree that things have changed over the decades but I wonder if some people expect everything to stay the same as it was when they were growing up.
I get nostalgic for the Manhattan of the mid 1990's from my childhood personally; Gray's Papaya in the Village was going strong, big Crown Vic's and Chevy Caprice taxis ruled the streets, the NYPD has the iconic blue and white cruisers, the Redbird subway cars were still around, you could see the Twin Towers from almost any spot south of 14th St and the rents were still reasonable. But those days are gone...
I'm sure some NYer's in 1960's were having the same about how Manhattan had more soul in 1920's and 1930's: Radio Row Downtown was being demolished for construction of the World Trade Center, the Singer Building was going too, Times Square was getting seedy, Madison Sq Garden, the MetLife blocked out the view up Park Avenue and Automats were closing down in droves. Things change (and not always for the better) and while I have conflicted feelings about how Manhattan has changed you have to accept that fact or invent the time machine. It's bad in some ways and good in others; it is what it is.
No sense wallowing in nostalgia. There's a good party/cultural scene in other cities. Heck, Philadelphia is a shorter drive than some subway rides into Midtown, and you'll be able to get a lot more mileage out of your dollar
Philly is not my type of scene. I was just down there a few weeks ago.
Philly is not my type of scene. I was just down there a few weeks ago.
They have a lot of interesting independent stores & restaurants, because creative types can afford the rents even downtown. What totally kills the philly vibe for me are the aggressive homeless people in your face at every corner.
They have a lot of interesting independent stores & restaurants, because creative types can afford the rents even downtown. What totally kills the philly vibe for me are the aggressive homeless people in your face at every corner.
The homeless people in Philly are no joke. Very scary and bold...
This is about the 5th or 6th thread I've seen today on how NYC is changing... I don't disagree that things have changed over the decades but I wonder if some people expect everything to stay the same as it was when they were growing up.
I get nostalgic for the Manhattan of the mid 1990's from my childhood personally; Gray's Papaya in the Village was going strong, big Crown Vic's and Chevy Caprice taxis ruled the streets, the NYPD has the iconic blue and white cruisers, the Redbird subway cars were still around, you could see the Twin Towers from almost any spot south of 14th St and the rents were still reasonable. But those days are gone...
I'm sure some NYer's in 1960's were having the same about how Manhattan had more soul in 1920's and 1930's: Radio Row Downtown was being demolished for construction of the World Trade Center, the Singer Building was going too, Times Square was getting seedy, Madison Sq Garden, the MetLife blocked out the view up Park Avenue and Automats were closing down in droves. Things change (and not always for the better) and while I have conflicted feelings about how Manhattan has changed you have to accept that fact or invent the time machine. It's bad in some ways and good in others; it is what it is.
An excellent and well-thought-out post . . . and I was one who started a thread in the same time frame as this present thread which I titled "About the homogenization and reduction of character of Manhattan over time (compared to the Manhattan of earlier times)". And yet I agree with what you have said here. And I remember all the places, scenes, and settings that you have referred to (even how the World Trade Center area used to be "Radio Row", all the prevalent Horn & Hardart Automats, and how Madison Square Garden used to be at 23rd St. & Fifth Ave. and then at 51st St. & Ninth Ave. before moving to being built over the present Penn Station). Yes, everything does change sooner or later. You have to more-or-less "roll with the flow" and accommodate yourself to it. The old Fillmore East is no longer there (since 1971); the Felt Forum is no longer there; the ever-prevalent porno industry is no longer around greater Times Square, the Polo Grounds are no longer there, and on and on and on with other examples,
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