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Question. In the past there were two schedules for entrance into these type of schools. One schedule was for minorities and one was for the general public. Is this still the case?
I think the magnet schools always had no affirmative action / color-blind admissions by state law.
Admissions to The Bronx High School of Science, Stuyvesant High School and Brooklyn Technical High School and such similar further special high schools which may be established shall be solely and exclusively by taking a competitive, objective and scholastic achievement examinatio
I think the magnet schools always had no affirmative action / color-blind admissions by state law.
Admissions to The Bronx High School of Science, Stuyvesant High School and Brooklyn Technical High School and such similar further special high schools which may be established shall be solely and exclusively by taking a competitive, objective and scholastic achievement examinatio
That's now. But it wasn't that way in the 70's. When I was in Brooklyn Tech there was AA girl who was failing nearly every class and we had a discussion about test scores. Back then we took an exam to get into certain groups of schools (Bronx Sci, Bklyn Tech, Stuy). The score she told me she got was below the threshold level to get into any of them and wasn't in any special program as per your link.
Then the Discovery Program was misused. She was gone by the end of the school year as in-school tutors didn't help in getting her grades up out of the red.
Wow, you don't see this as a bad thing? You don't see the injustice or anything broken??
Obviously our society is SICK and DISEASED when a child gets denied equal and fair access to education JUST because of who they're parents happen to be. That's something a child who is brought into this world has ZERO control over.
And you choose to turn a complete blind eye to this and pretend nothing is wrong? This is a sickening post regardless of your political beliefs.
Well, we could fix this in one stroke with school choice, so Black and Brown children who posses the academic ability have a chance to attend the same elite schools the kids in the suburbs/Manhattan do. We need to find a way to cater to the kids who want to succeed and can succeed rather than leave them stuck in the public system. That would lead to far more racial equilibrium and a true meritocracy.
But that's me being an heartless conservative again.
Question. In the past there were two schedules for entrance into these type of schools. One schedule was for minorities and one was for the general public. Is this still the case?
No need. Stuy, along with all the other top high schools, is already disproportionately minority.
It is majority Asian.
Interestingly, nearly 40% of Stuy. students get free or reduced price lunch due to their parental low income level.
Well, we could fix this in one stroke with school choice, so Black and Brown children who posses the academic ability have a chance to attend the same elite schools the kids in the suburbs/Manhattan do. We need to find a way to cater to the kids who want to succeed and can succeed rather than leave them stuck in the public system. That would lead to far more racial equilibrium and a true meritocracy.
But that's me being an heartless conservative again.
Any NYC student can already apply to any NYC high school.
Segregation of schools in NYC either religiously, racially, geographically and financially is nothing new in NYC and for some of the cities parents its welcoming in that they can send their kids to a private school, or a Catholic school or a jewish school, or an specialized school, or a school that is real good and only zoned for students who live within that particular zone. Getting into a good school either private, magnet, religious, specialized or charter acts as feeder schools to better schools eventually landing into an Ivy League or a top college. Whats wrong with todays public school system in NYC? I really cant say. I do not put much blame on teachers and staff, but I put most of the blame on individualism that is created by capitalism that can disway students from achieving. You have peer pressure from friends who can make students fail. Students may have parents who work long hours and are never home to check homework and grades. Again poor parenting, most notably in poor areas of the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens and Northern Manhattan. Out of a class of 32 students, how many of these students are going to off to college? Out of the 32, 10 will probably drop out, 8 might just receive high school diplomas and either go into the military or obtain some license for an apprenticeship like hair stylist or welder, 4 students will be undecided and out of the 10 that is left 5 might go to a community college, 3 will go to a public institution like state and the last 2 will go to an Ivy League. Capitalism is well embedded in our public schools. Only those who will try hard in public schools will be rewarded. Poor parenting and peer pressure is at fault for our failing public schools here in NYC.
Last gentrification is not going to save public school systems. Has anyone ever known college educated suburban Millennials not native to NYC who have gotten pregnant in NYC? I have. I know one in who lives in Bedstuy and when her daughter reached school age she cried how poor Bedstuy public schools are. She was lucky to get her child into a charter. Also I knew of another who could not afford child care costs even though she has a high paying job, she could not afford to and she moved back to Ohio. Plenty of gentry also would not in a million years send their kids to a public school. I'm not sure but in cities their is a huge demand to build private schools, a good example of this is the Avenues which cost 40k a year for each child!
No. I'm talking private schools vis-a-vis vouchers. Time to bring competition to the school system.
How well do vouchers work in the states they are implemented in? If overall this works well I have no problem with creating school vouchers. Perhaps the city and/or the state should do a pilot program first to test it and work out the issues before wide implementation.
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