How do the people at the bottom of the labor market survive in NYC? (New York: rent, condo)

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by DAS

Where? What neighborhoods? Are these unlisted studios, rented by private home owners, again connections. Friend of a family member. That is the only way since they are unlisted.

I don't see anything listed for less than $1200.

I posted some samples that were around 1000 and one under 1000. You just have to know how to do a good search on Craigslist.

These are not in nice areas mind you, but working class people rent them out all the time.

[ErnieG]

Originally Posted by DAS

Where? What neighborhoods? Are these unlisted studios, rented by private home owners, again connections. Friend of a family member. That is the only way since they are unlisted.

I don't see anything listed for less than $1200.

And whenever something seems too good to be true, it usually is. They're showing the INSIDE of the place. Then the hard part, by the time you contact the owner maybe it's rented already. Housing in NYC doesn't just languish on the market unless is sales. Sales can languish a little longer but halfway decent rentals are gone in a flash.

[ErnieG]

Originally Posted by NyWriterdude

I posted some samples that were around 1000 and one under 1000. You just have to know how to do a good search on Craigslist.

These are not in nice areas mind you, but working class people rent them out all the time.

Where are the $1,000 samples that are decent? Heck even a run down building in certain parts of Manhattan fetch $3,000 and up for a one bedroom.

[ErnieG]

Here's a decent site to get an idea for those who want to discuss factual information instead of trying to win an argument.

42,261 Apartment Rentals Found Nearby | Apartments.com

Parkchester is the only one that can get you in a one bedroom (I happen to know this is true) my daughter lives in Parkchester and has done so for the last fifteen years. The buildings are well kept (imo) and she gets good services.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by ErnieG

Where are the $1,000 samples that are decent? Heck even a run down building in certain parts of Manhattan fetch $3,000 and up for a one bedroom.

What are you talking about decent dude?

We're speaking off how to do people at the bottom of the labor market survive.

Of course they don't get decent! They'll take what they can get or go homeless.

You can't get decent off a working class job in the city, but you can get a place to stay and even an apartment of your own.

[ErnieG]

Originally Posted by UKWildcat1981

They could live in Harlem

Harlem is costlier than the Bronx. Haven't you heard it is now desirable? What happens when an area becomes desirable?

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by ErnieG

And whenever something seems too good to be true, it usually is. They're showing the INSIDE of the place. Then the hard part, by the time you contact the owner maybe it's rented already. Housing in NYC doesn't just languish on the market unless is sales. Sales can languish a little longer but halfway decent rentals are gone in a flash.

You are so desperate to childishly win an argument that it is ridiculous.

There are apartments regularly available on Craigslist for 1k in the Bronx. How long they are on the market doesn't matter. Their condition doesn't matter. The topic of this forum is how to working class people in NYC survive. As in the working poor.

They rent whatever apartments they can find (the cheapest ones) and they have some sort of government subsidy. That is how they get by, in a nutshell.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by ErnieG

Harlem is costlier than the Bronx. Haven't you heard it is now desirable? What happens when an area becomes desirable?

Harlem, especially Spanish Harlem is full of NYCHAs and all that ghetto isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

A lot of people or families at the bottom of the labor market are already established in whatever sort of subsidized housing that they already have and already know how to exploit the system.

[ErnieG]

Even if you're a young professional starting out at $30k-$40k, it still seems like it would be a stretch. I'm assuming most of these people have no car and live in the hood? How do you make it on such low wage in NYC?[/quote]

It would be very hard without other family or extended family/friends that can help. Today, New York caters to Rich. Middle income folk are sucker punched with taxes, in some shape or form in NYC. Did you know NYC wants us to pay to cart our garbage away? The poor who have managed to remain are hanging on by a thread. Some of them are content some not so much, that's why they leave.

Market rate apartments + are the majority in the city. Good luck with your endeavors.

[ErnieG]

Originally Posted by NyWriterdude

Harlem, especially Spanish Harlem is full of NYCHAs and all that ghetto isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

A lot of people or families at the bottom of the labor market are already established in whatever sort of subsidized housing that they already have and already know how to exploit the system.

Yes and right alongside those ghettoes are high falut'n high rises smack dab in the middle. I had to leave after having been born and raised there because I could no longer afford it. Twenty one years ago, I left and it is certainly on a rebound now. Brownstones in Harlem at one point (those run down places) fetch upwards of $1MM and more.

272 Malcolm X Blvd, New York 10027
$4,899 | House for Rent

381 W 125th St, New York 10027
$3,400 | Condo for Rent

182 Claremont Ave, New York 10027
$2,600 | House for Rent

So much for ghetto HARLEM!

212 W 122nd St # TOWNHOUSE,
New York, NY 10027
4 beds 4 baths 4,500 sqft
FOR SALE
$2,650,000