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When you think about the first half of so of the 20th century, Brooklyn projected a feeling, a vibe, of still being a city in its own right. During that time, the borough was only removed by half a century from the time it actually was a city.
the era i'm thinking of pretty much coincides with the Dodger era and when the Dodgers played the Giants, there was a sense of one city going up against another (not sure if the same dynamics would work with Nets and Knicks today).
brooklyn, of course, differed from the other outer boroughs because it alone was a city and retained that feeling even after Greater New York was created. Brooklyn always had more of a sense of place than did Qns, Brx, SI.
But now we're well more than a century past the creation of Greater New York. Areas close to the East River have seemed to have been taken over as part of Manhattan's orb. Nobody alive in NYC today (I think it is fairly safe to say) was alive when Brooklyn was a city of its own.
do you think the Brooklyn of today still has any sense left of being its own city, a place apart, or is that pretty much bygone by the time the 20th century ended and now as fully NYC as anyplace in the city?
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And I happen to live on the Queens side myself. Although we did live briefly on the Brooklyn side and we go there frequently for cheap shopping.
Always nice to find others who know the neighborhood and I see you are in Ridgewood yourself. More often than not when asked where I live, I find myself having to explain and even some natives tell me they are not familiar with the hood. I wonder why that is. Would guess either it's too far east or too far out on the M line.
And I happen to live on the Queens side myself. Although we did live briefly on the Brooklyn side and we go there frequently for cheap shopping.
Always nice to find others who know the neighborhood and I see you are in Ridgewood yourself. More often than not when asked where I live, I find myself having to explain and even some natives tell me they are not familiar with the hood. I wonder why that is. Would guess either it's too far east or too far out on the M line.
You get that a lot with Ridgewood. People in Queens will think its in Brooklyn and people in Brooklyn will think its in Queens (or just have no idea that they actually even stepped foot out of Brooklyn). Honestly for myself, due to where it is located I find myself to be in Brooklyn just as much if not more so than Queens itself.
studded, where did you get the idea i didn't see it the way you did…I was using the term "Greater New York" to mean the consolidation of 1898. that's why I would never have used the term "Greater NYC" because that was not the term used for the consolidation.
so basically you're lol-ing about something in which we are in total agreement.
Sorry that wasn't intended directly to you. The poster before me mentioned "Greater" and I believe a few others, so that's why I bought it up.
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Yeah...Brooklyn is much more into the generic pop culture scene than the other outerboros are.
But that was before it was in the limelight to be honest. For many natives of the borough it was cool even before people cared. Now there's a revitalization going on throughout the borough and outsiders are seeing what a gem the place has always been to us.
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Brooklyn is no longer under the radar anymore. Everyone from anywhere but Brooklyn is trying to claim it now.
False. Granted Brooklyn is no longer an underdog but if you're a true Brooklynite you'll ALWAYS be proud of where you're from. Sure it's changing a bit from when we grew up but I'm grateful for that, to a certain extent. There were many times when I'd walk Downtown, before Barclays and think "Why is there a giant hole here" - Granted I was a kid but still very aware.
People can/will be nostalgic about the "old" Brooklyn but it's called evolution. No place in the history of mankind has remained the same forever.
If the question is whether Brooklyn has *any* sense of being a city, then the answer is a resounding yes.
I also suspect that anyone born and raised in one of the five boroughs (and doesn't travel much out of the borough) has the same sense of their borough being it's own place/city or whatever word we're using to describe being from "somewhere".
Aren't people from "Q-boro" considered "thorough"? If you're from "Bed Stuy" aren't you "do or die"? People from "BX", "The X", or "The Boogie Down" aren't from any ol' Bronx, they're from The Bronx, no? I think I'm in the small minority that actually says they're "from Manhattan", not NYC, LES, SoHo, Tribeca, UES, Harlem, etc.
University was the first time I mixed with people from Long Island and more often than not they lead with "I'm from Long Island" not the village, hamlet, or town they're from.
False. Granted Brooklyn is no longer an underdog but if you're a true Brooklynite you'll ALWAYS be proud of where you're from. Sure it's changing a bit from when we grew up but I'm grateful for that, to a certain extent. There were many times when I'd walk Downtown, before Barclays and think "Why is there a giant hole here" - Granted I was a kid but still very aware.
People can/will be nostalgic about the "old" Brooklyn but it's called evolution. No place in the history of mankind has remained the same forever.
I'm not talking about native Brooklynites.
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