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Old 07-26-2018, 09:18 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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So I was reading about the newly posted, "Fulton Houses" over on Chelsea.

Can you believe that NYCHA is now accepting single applicants who make up to 120K a year? Maybe this was the case, but I'm not sure. It looks like these applicants will pay the same cheap rent as the rest - (according to income). I wonder about two things:

1. With a mix of middle income and poor, will NYCHA continue to have their mold/ terrible upkeep problems
2. Why is NYCHA now changing their income levels if everyone gets to pay the same cheap rent (it's not like these apartments are being converted to market rate) lol
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Old 07-26-2018, 09:20 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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So I was reading about the newly posted, "Fulton Houses" over on Chelsea.

Can you believe that NYCHA is now accepting single applicants who make up to 120K a year? Maybe this was the case, but I'm not sure. It looks like these applicants will pay the same cheap rent as the rest - (according to income). I wonder about two things:

1. With a mix of middle income and poor, will NYCHA continue to have their mold/ terrible upkeep problems
2. Why is NYCHA now changing their income levels if everyone gets to pay the same cheap rent (it's not like these apartments are being converted to market rate) lol
Maybe we'll see more of the Tesla driving types moving in, like the guy who boasted in another thread about how he drove a Tesla, made a great salary and was living in the PJs. LMAO
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Old 07-26-2018, 09:26 AM
 
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So I was reading about the newly posted, "Fulton Houses" over on Chelsea.

Can you believe that NYCHA is now accepting single applicants who make up to 120K a year? Maybe this was the case, but I'm not sure. It looks like these applicants will pay the same cheap rent as the rest - (according to income). I wonder about two things:

1. With a mix of middle income and poor, will NYCHA continue to have their mold/ terrible upkeep problems
2. Why is NYCHA now changing their income levels if everyone gets to pay the same cheap rent (it's not like these apartments are being converted to market rate) lol
I agree with this idea on a social level though. The fact is that for a long time before NY's re-emergence, the entirety of social policy has been to use projects and whole neighborhoods as dumping grounds for the poor. The push for economic diversity has been a good one.
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Old 07-26-2018, 09:28 AM
 
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Is it a NYCHA project or is it a building that although being built on NYCHA land is not really a NYCHA project?

It might be one of those mixed income buildings that the city is attempting to put in the midst of the projects.
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Old 07-26-2018, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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I agree with this idea on a social level though. The fact is that for a long time before NY's re-emergence, the entirety of social policy has been to use projects and whole neighborhoods as dumping grounds for the poor. The push for economic diversity has been a good one.
I agree to a certain extent. I think that is what schemes like 80/20 are for.

However, with the NYCHA route, someone who is making $40k will be subsidizing someone who is making $120k, that's a questionable moral policy to put it lightly.
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Old 07-26-2018, 09:48 AM
 
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So I was reading about the newly posted, "Fulton Houses" over on Chelsea.

Can you believe that NYCHA is now accepting single applicants who make up to 120K a year? Maybe this was the case, but I'm not sure. It looks like these applicants will pay the same cheap rent as the rest - (according to income). I wonder about two things:

1. With a mix of middle income and poor, will NYCHA continue to have their mold/ terrible upkeep problems
2. Why is NYCHA now changing their income levels if everyone gets to pay the same cheap rent (it's not like these apartments are being converted to market rate) lol
Where is the thread?
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Old 07-26-2018, 09:58 AM
 
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its not NYCHA, it's an 80/20 building with some NYCHA from what I understand. and NYCHA rent is not the same for everyone, it's 30% of your income so if you make a lot more then you will pay alot more.
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Old 07-26-2018, 09:59 AM
 
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I agree to a certain extent. I think that is what schemes like 80/20 are for.

However, with the NYCHA route, someone who is making $40k will be subsidizing someone who is making $120k, that's a questionable moral policy to put it lightly.
someone making 120k would be paying $3k per month for a 1 bedroom or studio, they'd be the one subsidizing the 40k tenant not the other way around.
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Old 07-26-2018, 10:00 AM
 
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but really, 6 figures is not alot in NYC, especially in chelsea, why shouldn't middle class get housing? all housing should be for poverty? everyone in the middle is SOL?
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Old 07-26-2018, 10:00 AM
 
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So I was reading about the newly posted, "Fulton Houses" over on Chelsea.

Can you believe that NYCHA is now accepting single applicants who make up to 120K a year? Maybe this was the case, but I'm not sure. It looks like these applicants will pay the same cheap rent as the rest - (according to income). I wonder about two things:

1. With a mix of middle income and poor, will NYCHA continue to have their mold/ terrible upkeep problems
2. Why is NYCHA now changing their income levels if everyone gets to pay the same cheap rent (it's not like these apartments are being converted to market rate) lol
This is not exactly NYCHA as in the projects where they can ignore violations. This is along the lines of affordable housing that I like to call unaffordable because the income requirements are out of the range that many people make. And the Tennant still have to pay ConEd lol.

https://a806-housingconnect.nyc.gov/...entPdf/549.pdf
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