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Old 02-04-2016, 07:43 PM
 
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What's a fair chance? Is that like "democrats say so, so..." or "it's common sense"?

Since it has been proven over and over that libby anti-Constitution proposals would do nothing to lower "gun violence" and are never based on empirical evidence, can you just admit that blaming the NRA is merely a convenient way to deflect from the violence issues in the poor, mostly black community where "gun violence" is prevalent?

For some strange reason we can say "gun violence", a term which blames an inanimate object, but we can't say "black on black violence", a term which much more closely describes the bulk of crimes committed with firearms annually.
What are you talking about? Austrialia used to have gun laws like ours. They had one mass shooting and the implemented massive reforms. Since then, gun violence dropped MASSIVELY. That doesn't meen that gun violence in Austriala is non-existent, but countless of lives have been saved because of the reforms.

The US is the ONLY ADVANCED/DEVELOPED nation in the world with such high incidents of gun violence. The problem is that despite some states having tough regulations, other states will allow almost anyone to buy a gun, and states with tough regulations have no way of preventing those guns from coming into their states. States with loose regulations tend to have more gun violence. The few states with tough regulation that have high gun violence, you will find that most of the guns recovered come from states with loose regulations. The only way to prevent gun violence is to adopt similar, tough regulations, NATIONWIDE.
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Old 02-04-2016, 08:55 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Come get them my man, any time.
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Old 02-04-2016, 09:07 PM
 
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Come get them my man, any time.
I don't want your guns. There is a difference between regulation and consfiscation. If I remember correctly, you're a police officer (or ex police officer.) That means you've had a lot of training on how to use a gun, how to store them correctly and safety, and how to properly respond in a dangerous situation. Your job probably also required mental evaluations at one point. You can't honestly tell me that a 5/10 hr class on how to use guns compares to the years of training you have had. Yet, in some states, that's all that's required to buy a gun, and that scares the **** out of me.

Can you honestly tell me, putting aside our differences in ideology, that if you happened to be in situation that required you to draw your gun, with your family around you, that you would feel safe that someone with good intentions, but no experience of training (aside of a 5hr class,) also drawing their gun and firing off?
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Old 02-04-2016, 09:28 PM
 
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Why are you making this a black vs. white thing?

As for "modern science and technology": I'm fairly certain white men (and, a few women) are responsible for 99.99% of this modern science and technology you seem to hold so dearly. I guarantee that irony gets lost in your racially obsessed head of yours. (((rattle)))
Lolol this huge lie.

And to think maybe you forgot that GUNPOWDER (of all things) and lots of forms of "technology" old and new came from non-Europeans.
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Old 02-04-2016, 09:46 PM
 
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I hate the diblasio administration, I hate black lives matter movement, and I think this kid and his family are scum thugs.

That being said, I don't know how this isn't self defense, at least based on the few details provided. Police confirmed the violence was initiated by the victim and several others. And I don't think it was while dealing drugs, but rather over a drug debt.
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Old 02-05-2016, 06:37 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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I don't want your guns. There is a difference between regulation and consfiscation. If I remember correctly, you're a police officer (or ex police officer.) That means you've had a lot of training on how to use a gun, how to store them correctly and safety, and how to properly respond in a dangerous situation. Your job probably also required mental evaluations at one point. You can't honestly tell me that a 5/10 hr class on how to use guns compares to the years of training you have had. Yet, in some states, that's all that's required to buy a gun, and that scares the **** out of me.

Can you honestly tell me, putting aside our differences in ideology, that if you happened to be in situation that required you to draw your gun, with your family around you, that you would feel safe that someone with good intentions, but no experience of training (aside of a 5hr class,) also drawing their gun and firing off?
Ok, in all seriousness, it doesn't matter whether I'd feel safe or not. We are a nation supposedly based off of the rule of law rather than the rule of man. That means we either respect our Constitution as it was written, or we admit that we have move so far away from it's edicts that it is no longer our guiding document.

That fact that you would even mention Australia, a nation which straight up banned and confiscated nearly every class of modern firearm, tells me that your limit regarding what you consider acceptable "gun control" goes deeply enough that if it was up to me and you to "compromise", we wouldn't be able to.

On that point, explain to me why the word "compromise" suddenly changes definition to "give us something and we give you nothing" when speaking about guns, and explain to me what the end game is? Both are valid questions.

Since the 1968 Gun Control Act, across the USA we have passed over 20,000 guns laws. Since the left continually wants more, it is not absurd for a gun rights advocate to be thinking, Wait a second. If every law they've passed so far hasn't done enough according to them, what exactly are they getting at?"

We've reached the breaking point now, as evidenced by the fact that unlike in the past, democrats not only speak openly of severe gun control measures - such as Australia's - but the two major candidates for president are engaged in one-upmanship over the topic, despite the fact that one was openly pro-gun in the past (Sanders) and the other played up the "duck hunting photo op" multiple times during her political career.

Not one more inch. The game is over. FYI we won a major decision yesterday in Maryland. Check it out.
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Old 02-05-2016, 06:39 AM
 
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Lolol this huge lie.

And to think maybe you forgot that GUNPOWDER (of all things) and lots of forms of "technology" old and new came from non-Europeans.
Gun powder came from the Chinese. Guns as we know them were developed in Europe and the Americas.
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Old 02-05-2016, 08:05 AM
 
Location: BROOKLYN NYC
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Gun powder came from the Chinese. Guns as we know them were developed in Europe and the Americas.
Come on Airborne, don't you know the Chinese developed gunpowder and used it strictly in a peaceful manner for fireworks in they're celebrations? It was the evil and exploitive white European that stole the technology and developed weapons to intimidate and kill. Yes of course, to the left we are everything that is wrong on this planet.
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Old 02-05-2016, 09:54 AM
 
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Dang, foiled again. lol At least I tried!
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