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Mobsters will kill for stupid reasons also. One Mobster was arrested and is currently on trial for killing a man walking his dog in a Brooklyn park. He seperated from his wife to go for a walk and his wife worried because he never came back. Found dead in the park later.
Come on, has anyone seen Joe Pesci in Goodfellas, of course mobsters kill for stupid reasons.
I'll bump this thread when dozens of street gang members are arrested, again.
That'll be a while.
Here's a sober reality check. the Mafia, at its height had about 1500 made guys and about 10,000 associates spread across 26 families.
The Bloods and Crips have over 100,000 from Boise to Boston.
MS-13 is a paramilitary trans-national gang who are responsible for hundreds of murders in the last few years alone.
The reason the FBI goes after the Mafia is that its an easy target that gets big headlines. THe Mafia today is about 1/4 of the membership of its hey day.
Street gangs have become the new organized crime powers. Far more dangerous, far more pervasive.
Agreed that street gangs are more dangerous than the Mafia. There are many many street gangs. The bloods ,crips , kings, ms-13, folks, DDP, trinitario, LB etc.....they attack unprovoked and for no aparent reasons. Most of these gangs have members into the 1000's. The Mafia besides the fact that there not as strong as in the past, usually puts hits on you if you're related in some manner. Not saying ALL is like this but most. A blood would shoot you up for no reason, a mafia would hit on you if you done damaged to them in some way.
One thing I notice with all of you (and many people in NYC - although many of you on here are not from there) is that you believed in all this show like it's some sort of television. I give credit to the one guy that described the ex-Italian mobsters as being in there 80's. If any do exist, they'll die soon anyway. They aren't fresh meat for the prisoner's anyway.
I saw someone say why are you picking out the Dominicans? Dominican gangs are a joke. I think it was Supermario who said what about Puerto Rican gangs? Well, since when did Puerto Ricans ever exist? Historically speaking, if there ever was one, they weren't powerful. When any gang isn't powerful, the most common thing you'll see is losers in their 20's and 30's selling drugs. Most aren't in there late 40's, 50's and even older. Most people of Puerto Rican descent have lost their ethnic label, ancestral language and anything that would not make them one of the most quickly watered out group's in this city's history.
As far as African American gangs go, they're all severed into millions of pieces. They're all on there own fighting one another. They're more divided than whites are in the business world. They got no unity outside of their skin color. Surely, people might be ''scared'' of them, as there are drug dealers just like anyone else, but they lack unity. No one respects any socially constructed blackness in this country. As I said on the other board, black is beautiful from a physical point of view, but it's a very disgusting thing socially because all it does is promote collectivist hateful segregation that keeps them educationally and economically behind. This country wouldn't have to say it, but by thinking blonde hair and blue eyes is beautiful, they're saying white is beautiful. It's safe to say that we all do definitely think that whiteness as a social conformity is a disgusting thing though.
So many of these loser groups have been dismantled or so damaged, they shouldn't even exist. There are actually some retards to this day who believe the Latin King's exist, even though they've been wiped out by the cops. Sure, there might be a few loser drug dealers around, but how many people really got that back? There more scared of the cops than middle-class Americans are of the IRS. Allowing them to keep their low-class bull collective title allows them to keep some mirage of pride that doesn't exist.
Although fake groups like the Blood's and Crip's might be exist a little more, they don't exist. There is trash all over this country, but if you guys really believe Americans could be that intimidating, you're the ones being fooled.
By the way, I got a lot more respect for groups like the FBI because they crack down harder. The NYPD has cracked down good too, but for the amount of cop's they have (they'd like you to believe 40 thousand for 8 1/2 million people is necessary - but a normal person to cop ratio would command approximately 27 thousand cops). I do give them some credit for cracking down on crime (along with basically making it illegal or too expensive for anyone to have a gun), but this city has just gotten more gradually safe because that's how it's been throughout the whole country. Plus, this is an expensive city that progressively is known for dumping out our human trash.
''No gang is bigger than Al- Qaeda. Lets get that clear. Go after the mob like they do terrorist. That will crack 'em.''
Silkcity, if you believe in our government so much, you're also the naive one. Surely, ''Al Qaeda'' could be the kings of all human trash (well, they are tied with the Bush administration), but what makes you think that we ever cracked them to begin with? Why would we go after them like a terrorist? So we could bankrupt our city like Bush has tarnished out economy? Gang violence goes away on it's own. The last thing we need is our incompetent government coming into here.
Consider New York City's population, homicide rates are relatively low. Edgar Allen Poe stories don't count as deaths. Philadelphia practically has the same amount of homicides even though they have one-sixth the population. That's because their police department is understaffed and all people are hopeless there. The state of crime in which New York City in now isn't all that bad. Let the scum kill themselves off. In Philadelphia, I'd recommend locking all the drug-dealer's into one room and lighting the room of fire lol
Maybe it's a little more common to meet drug dealers or not so ''powerful'' gang members, but very few of you have ever met a member of what you believe is the Italian mafia, because they barely even exist. The only ones who think they're apart of it are old loser's who lives were so ruined they'd have no where else to turn to depend on any kind of human pride. They rarely actually do anything worth gathering attention. That is of course could be an exception if the media jazzes up the story like they did in this circumstance. The NY Post will do better than Poe in that regard if any of you are interested in that junk.
Angler, please don't believe there are as many bloods and crips as major cities in a small region in this country. I'd be surprised if there were one-seventh of that in the whole country. If you ever go to another country and tell people in France, Germany or better yet a country with problems like - Sudan about your itty bitty big tough cookie American bad boys, they'll laugh at the insinuation. The number is more on the ball for the mob, but the amount of families is off (well ones, that actually do things).
Remember, where do all of you guy's seem to acquire your information about all this stuff? The New York Media. The New York Media is pro-mafia, drug dealers and all that garbage. Not because they believe in it, but because the belief in it is marketable. It keeps people like us reading and create imaginations. Some gangs are larger than others, but it's much more safe to say that you guys would be better off exaggerating rather than being naive.
I'll bump this thread when dozens of street gang members are arrested, again.
Since Most are Latino and Black (second) They cant !!
Thats racism or discriminitive targeting.
This asshat Ray Kelly wants an equil pie chart across the board like he tried in Boston and Detroit being thrown out on his tush.
Sharpton even complained when MS-13 killed some kids Brownsville
.....Now the street gangs are going to take over and turn Queens and Nassau county into another El-Salavador, Columbia or South Central Los Aneglos.
FEDS GO HOME OR GRAB THE REAL DANGER !!''
Once again, don't exaggerate. Yes, arresting losers is a waste, but it's better than Dunking Donuts. They should go after the more dangerous sources, but by no measure would I say Queens or Nassau County is El Salvador or Colombia. And definitely not south central. El Salvador and Colombia are good countries with good people. Don't disrespect a foreign country by using a minimal population to represent them.
Both Queens and Nassau are expensive places to live. Those trashy pieces of human trash could barely even afford to live here. Especially in the burbs. These places are mostly educated and have a good future. Yes, there is crime, but that's like anywhere else. New York City is a safe city though. And Queens especially. I believe all of us really take this for granted and really exaggerate about the most little mediated garbage like this incident.
Since Most are Latino and Black (second) They cant !!
Thats racism or discriminitive targeting.
This asshat Ray Kelly wants an equil pie chart across the board like he tried in Boston and Detroit being thrown out on his tush.
Sharpton even complained when MS-13 killed some kids Brownsville
Being Latino doesn't exist, and if you believe it does, than who may the real fool be?
Blame the media.
Al Sharpton is not a human being. He isn't a black man. If anything he's a white man. He doesn't care about blacks. No black wants his help. No middle class black man has ever accepted that dirtbags offerings. Even the low class victims don't ask for his help. He voluntarily goes up to them. Recently, Philadelphia's mayor said get the hell out of my city because he was trying to brew trouble.
When was the last time anyone heard him talk about anything other than race? Believe it or not, black people actually don't think about race all the time like how the media perpetuates. Who better to use than Sharpton? Why do you think he's made such a career feeding illegally paying himself off the poor trash of this city? When he dies, he's going to hell. He says he's a man of god, yet he wouldn't apologize for accusing the guy in the Brawley case in Upstate in the 80's, even though the girl literally said they didn't rape her. He's a media puppet. Don't be surprised if there is a white man underneath his costume. He's going to hell right along all the oppresive whites, because he practically is one and has subjected himself to being a toy for the media.
What better city than New York too? Even Newark's turned him down several times. New York City is by far the most racist major city in the United States and on the western hemisphere. It's because of our media and ill-minded people who can't go without 2 minutes of thinking about race or ethnicity. Racism is well-alive in New York culture not so much because people are actually racist, but rather because it's embedded and institutionalized into the psychology of this city's infrastructure.
Angler, please don't believe there are as many bloods and crips as major cities in a small region in this country. I'd be surprised if there were one-seventh of that in the whole country. If you ever go to another country and tell people in France, Germany or better yet a country with problems like - Sudan about your itty bitty big tough cookie American bad boys, they'll laugh at the insinuation. The number is more on the ball for the mob, but the amount of families is off (well ones, that actually do things).
I don't believe, I know from federal and state law enforcement stats. I fyou don't think gangs are a far greater problem than you insinuate- look at the crime stats. They speak volumes.
And as for the mob families- there were 26- most are now inactive. The ones remaining are : New England (Boston/Providence), Philly, the 5 NY families, the Decavalcantes, Chicago Outfit, Detroit; and remnants in Tampa, Kansas City, and Pittsburgh.
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