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Old 05-08-2016, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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We have to halt immigration or regulate where the immigrants can live in this country. Also, the illegal population should all be deported back to where they come from. This is what SHOULD happen but it won't so our huge population will just keep growing until this happens.
There's more than enough room in this country. Plenty of unused land. There's not enough room this city though.
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Old 05-08-2016, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Yes, we should build a wall around the 5 boros and elect Sanders as mayor. That's as greedy as we can get.


And have Mexico pay for it.
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Old 05-08-2016, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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And have Mexico pay for it.
We already discussed earlier in the thread about how Jersey would.
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Old 05-08-2016, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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We have to halt immigration or regulate where the immigrants can live in this country. Also, the illegal population should all be deported back to where they come from. This is what SHOULD happen but it won't so our huge population will just keep growing until this happens.
Both houses of Congress needs to hold a moratorium on open immigration act. Thier needs to be immigration reform. My thing is this immigration to America around be allowed for refugees as a sign of America being benevolent and just. As for any other immigration, one must have a certain level of requirements to apply for a green card like having a college degree, owning a business of some sort, being married for 10 years and other signs of stability that will be beneficial to American development. As for where immigrants live? Plenty of immigrants are skipping nyc. Central Americans choose the south west, Caribbeans choose Florida and the Bayou, Africans choose the Midwest.
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Old 05-08-2016, 09:23 AM
 
Location: new yawk zoo
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End affordable housing, rent control, rent stabilize, homeless, medicaid, illegal immigrants, and all the leeches of the system. Send them all to Detroit. They have plenty of housing there.
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Old 05-08-2016, 10:02 AM
 
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We already discussed earlier in the thread about how Jersey would.
To be fair, we probably should. With NYC walled off, all the rich people head across the Hudson and set up a replacement over here.
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Old 05-08-2016, 10:37 AM
 
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There's plenty of room on the New Jersey side of the city. Much of it is still relatively low-density. Of course more rapid transit lines would have to be built, but that could pay for itself if it stimulates development. I don't think NYC needs to restrict growth. Being a big city is part of its appeal. That's something that people like about it. Growth isn't bad if the city can accommodate for it.
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Old 05-08-2016, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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There's plenty of room on the New Jersey side of the city. Much of it is still relatively low-density. Of course more rapid transit lines would have to be built, but that could pay for itself if it stimulates development. I don't think NYC needs to restrict growth. Being a big city is part of its appeal. That's something that people like about it. Growth isn't bad if the city can accommodate for it.
More rapid transit lines.... New Jersey already had the opportunity previously, but Chris Christie decided to cancel the ARC project.
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Old 05-08-2016, 05:38 PM
 
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More rapid transit lines.... New Jersey already had the opportunity previously, but Chris Christie decided to cancel the ARC project.

That was for new Hudson River tunnels to replace and or add to capacity once the older ones are repaired. In any event the thing seems to be going forward after Booker and Schumer pushed for some federal funding.


That being said new tunnels under the Hudson won't per se solve New Jersey's "rapid transit" problem. Main issues are capacity at Penn Station which in turn relates to new stations and or lines in that state.


New Jersey has scores if not hundreds of miles of abandoned rail ROW including in places near enough to NYC. The "Newark Line" once ran from that city all the way up to Nutley.


Historically the problem is then as now; getting across the Hudson River.


Three major railroads had terminals along the Hudson River. Passengers and or freight would be off loaded there and continue onto points east via ferries. The great Pennsylvania RR was the only one to build tunnels under the Hudson thus connecting that RR with the rest of mainland USA.


Even if you greatly expanded passenger/commuter rail service into and through NJ (to PA for instance) Penn Station is full, there simply isn't that much more room to accommodate increased trains.


The whole Farley post office conversion is putting very expensive lipstick on a pig. You can gain some breathing room by stopping (some) trains there instead of having them continue into NYP, but the approaches and the rest are what they are. Under the ARC tunnel plan former NYP entrance/exit at Macy's Herald Square would have been reopened, but again this only takes some of the pressure off.


Any huge expansion of rail between NJ and NYC will require a new station or terminal. That would cost hundreds of billions and won't happen because land is just too expensive in NYC, especially the now hot "Far West Side".


Even expanding Penn Station would cost hundreds of billions (just getting MSG moved wouldn't be cheap), and involve a construction nightmare of a project.
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Old 05-08-2016, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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The ARC had plans for a new 6 track terminal under Macy's. If there was enough funding, it would've been better to connect to Sunnyside Yards and have trains run through.

It would costs tens of billion, not hundreds. I would use the ARC estimates to get a ballpark figure. Getting MSG moved is "simply" just building a new arena. I'd say $2 billion.
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