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I'm surprised LES is still considered gentrifying. I feel like it's pretty much already there albeit it doesn't look as modern nor is as clean as some of the other neighborhoods on this list.
The deeper parts of LES (ie furthest from trains) haven't fully gentrified yet.
Ummm once upon a time meaning just a few decades ago, pretty much all of Brooklyn PUBLIC schools were crap. Brooklyn was crime central even Williamsburg. So I think you are pretty much bias by your own perceptions
Yep, and decades ago I would have stayed clear of pretty much all of Brooklyn (except a few select neighborhoods in which Williamsburg would not have been one of them). Back then everyone was moving to the suburbs. Why? Because of the schools. When these so-called gentrifiers have kids of school age, they'll likely do the same if they cannot afford private school.
I'm not racist. You're just being dishonest. The schools being too ****ty and the crime being too high in all those neighborhoods is really because there are too many Black people for your tastes (not the gentrifiers tastes though). The only neighborhoods gentrifying neighborhoods you liked where the ones that have never had any substantial Black population.
You can honestly tell me that schools in these neighborhoods are just as good, and crime just as low, as that of the average NYC neighborhood. You're nothing but a racist fool that thinks black people should just go on excepting this. The neighborhoods that I liked were never really ghetto in the first place, so it makes sense for them to be acceptable to me because it is not acceptable for me to raise my kids in the ghetto just how your parents determined it was not acceptable to raise you in the ghetto. I wouldn't recommend people of any race to raise their kids in these neighborhoods until these neighborhoods can provide adequate services to them you bigot.
Crime?! lol...I live in Hamilton Heights and I feel much safer here than almost anywhere else in the city. Definitely safer than any of the neighborhoods listed in Brooklyn - used to live in one of them as well. I think I saw a crime map recently and it was pretty low up here compared to other areas.
Also this area is pretty rapidly changing. When I first moved up here a few years ago, if anything it looked a little seedy and I had to assure people that they were safe when they came up to visit. I guess it is still a little gritty but no worse than other areas of the city.
I do have a couple of ghetto neighbors I would be happy to see get 'gentrified out' - except that if they do leave it will be them getting evicted because they don't know how to act and conduct themselves in apartment living.
I don't really know much about Hamilton Heights, but have heard good things. How are the schools?
The millionaire class is just pushing the middle class out of the city centers and then gentrifying their neighboords with large constructions, pays to be rich in AMerica
I'm surprised LES is still considered gentrifying. I feel like it's pretty much already there albeit it doesn't look as modern nor is as clean as some of the other neighborhoods on this list.
I agree. I don't think there's anywhere in Manhattan South of Harlem that isn't gentrified, except for maybe certain blocks directly bordering NYCHA like Avenue D.
You can honestly tell me that schools in these neighborhoods are just as good, and crime just as low, as that of the average NYC neighborhood. You're nothing but a racist fool that thinks black people should just go on excepting this. The neighborhoods that I liked were never really ghetto in the first place, so it makes sense for them to be acceptable to me because it is not acceptable for me to raise my kids in the ghetto just how your parents determined it was not acceptable to raise you in the ghetto. I wouldn't recommend people of any race to raise their kids in these neighborhoods until these neighborhoods can provide adequate services to them you bigot.
Well Upper Manhattan has Columbia University, City College, Mount Sinai Medical School. Due to the academic institutions there are plenty of services, and the people who chose to work and live near those places have better school options in THOSE neighborhoods (there are special schools where university faculty and other professionals send their kids if they live in the area), so it's not like they are all going to "bad" schools.
Of course due to your own bias you can't see that.
As for your recommendation that nobody of any race raise their children there, that's just plain dumb and irrational. You want to empty all of these neighborhoods, public housing including into your marvelous Glendale? If they are just jumped into other neighborhoods, those neighborhoods will become equally despised ghettoes by you because you don't like the demographics. Clearly people have to raise their children somewhere, and people can't all live in neighborhoods you APPROVE of.
I also didn't even mention all of the hospitals and government offices and k-12 jobs in Harlem. To claim Upper Manhattan is all bad is just plain ridiculous. And to claim no one should raise children here is just silly. Some of the charter schools here have done very well.
Yep, and decades ago I would have stayed clear of pretty much all of Brooklyn (except a few select neighborhoods in which Williamsburg would not have been one of them). Back then everyone was moving to the suburbs. Why? Because of the schools. When these so-called gentrifiers have kids of school age, they'll likely do the same if they cannot afford private school.
So you really think the "gentrifiers" are just young college kids? Young kids aren't buying the brownstones in bed stuy, fort green/Clinton hill, Bushwick etc. many are professionals with families or having families. If you can afford the housing prices in Brooklyn you can most likely afford private school.
But besides that there was a mass exodus to the suburbs from the city not because of school theoretically. Google "White Flight", black people and other ethnicities starting moving into the city that's why they all fled. Bad schools were an after effect of home values decreasing and funds being removed from minority neighborhoods
So you really think the "gentrifiers" are just young college kids? Young kids aren't buying the brownstones in bed stuy, fort green/Clinton hill, Bushwick etc. many are professionals with families or having families. If you can afford the housing prices in Brooklyn you can most likely afford private school.
But besides that there was a mass exodus to the suburbs from the city not because of school theoretically. Google "White Flight", black people and other ethnicities starting moving into the city that's why they all fled. Bad schools were an after effect of home values decreasing and funds being removed from minority neighborhoods
I'm sure the majority of them will send their kids to public school anyway.
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