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Old 05-22-2016, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Theres a thread in the DC forum on zoning regulations that evolved into one on gentrification. Take away the name of the city and the DC specific height restriction, then it reads almost identical to threads in this NYC forum.
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Old 05-22-2016, 07:45 AM
 
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Theres a thread in the DC forum on zoning regulations that evolved into one on gentrification. Take away the name of the city and the DC specific height restriction, then it reads almost identical to threads in this NYC forum.
DC is never going to get rid of their height restriction. What I would like to see, is the same level of high rise construction occur in Maryland that is occurring in Northern Virginia.

DC's gentrification may be for different reasons than NYC's gentrification. Different industries. DC is not a working class city. NYC was, at one time. But the shift from a working class city into what NYC is now has been occurring slowly, probably since before WWII. With DC, you have an aggressive expansion of the federal government and related industries. NYC, you have an aggressive expansion of everything else, primarily finance.
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Old 05-24-2016, 12:35 PM
 
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One thing I find interesting is that in NYC, it's easier for black neighborhoods to gentrify than elsewhere. I'm from Chicago, and it seems like it'll be a hundred years before the west and south sides even begin to gentrify, but in NYC there's already a lot of it in neighborhoods like Harlem and Bed Stuy.
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Old 05-24-2016, 12:55 PM
 
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One thing I find interesting is that in NYC, it's easier for black neighborhoods to gentrify than elsewhere. I'm from Chicago, and it seems like it'll be a hundred years before the west and south sides even begin to gentrify, but in NYC there's already a lot of it in neighborhoods like Harlem and Bed Stuy.

That is because large parts of Harlem and Bedford Stuyvesant were built for middle class to wealthy whites, thus the bones (housing stock) is good underneath. Blacks only became the dominate minority in both areas largely after whites packed up and moved.


Bedford Stuyvesant, Clinton Hill, Fort Greene, Prospect Heights, etc.... are all brownstone, townhouse, small mansion and pre-war apartment neighborhoods. Right now that sort of housing is in high demand.
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Old 05-24-2016, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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One thing I find interesting is that in NYC, it's easier for black neighborhoods to gentrify than elsewhere. I'm from Chicago, and it seems like it'll be a hundred years before the west and south sides even begin to gentrify, but in NYC there's already a lot of it in neighborhoods like Harlem and Bed Stuy.
That is because places like Bed Stuy, Clinton Hill, Fort Greene, Crown Heights and Harlem are in prime locations, closest to the city and along subway lines! (for the most part!). Now that those places are 'turned over', the spill 'continues' into places like the South Bronx, East New York, etc.....!
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Old 05-24-2016, 01:27 PM
 
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That is because places like Bed Stuy, Clinton Hill, Fort Greene, Crown Heights and Harlem are in prime locations, closest to the city and along subway lines! (for the most part!). Now that those places are 'turned over', the spill 'continues' into places like the South Bronx, East New York, etc.....!


Harlem, yes. But Clinton Hill and IIRC parts of Bedford Stuyvesant are not easily reached by subway service to and from Manhattan. Worked with someone years ago who lived on Washington Avenue near Pratt. He had to take the "L" into Queens then catch the "E" or "F" into the City. That or take the bus or walk up DeKalb to Atlantic Avenue.


What Brooklyn did have long before subways was ferry service across the East River. Brooklyn Heights area was one of the first spots to take off for the "wealthy" because of the new subway lines. Wall Street bankers and others could escape Manhattan for the beautiful views and quite honestly lovely area of The Heights.
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Old 05-24-2016, 01:36 PM
 
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When is New York going to take back the waterfront?
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Old 05-24-2016, 02:01 PM
 
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When is New York going to take back the waterfront?

How do you mean?


Manhattan has largely taken back the water front as have large parts of Brooklyn from the Navy Yard up and past the Brooklyn Bridge and up the East River towards Queens. That last borough is fast doing so as well. For both Queens and parts of Brooklyn a large problem is that you have many former industrial/commercial areas that basically sit on toxic waste sites.


Not Even Toxic Waste Can Stop Gentrification: NYC's Superfund Neighborhoods Are Booming: Gothamist


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Old 05-24-2016, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, VA
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How do you mean?


Manhattan has largely taken back the water front as have large parts of Brooklyn from the Navy Yard up and past the Brooklyn Bridge and up the East River towards Queens. That last borough is fast doing so as well. For both Queens and parts of Brooklyn a large problem is that you have many former industrial/commercial areas that basically sit on toxic waste sites.


Not Even Toxic Waste Can Stop Gentrification: NYC's Superfund Neighborhoods Are Booming: Gothamist


Long Island City - Toxic Waste Dump | StreetEasy
What about where the housing projects are located? I thought there were plans for that land as well because it is prime real estate.
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Old 05-24-2016, 03:17 PM
 
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What about where the housing projects are located? I thought there were plans for that land as well because it is prime real estate.

Depends I suppose where those housing projects are located.


Post super storm Sandy those in areas that are in FEMA's new cross hairs are going be hard sell to developers. Even NYCHA has to fall into line regarding anti-flooding measures.


Bad enough building new in such areas will be costly but how many would be willing to shell out that kind of money to live next door to the projects?
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