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Brooklyn's new high rises are completely blocking off Manhattan's view which is disconcerting. Plus that just means our rents will continue to sky rocket and welcomes more douche midwesterns/rich foreigners. Hopefully it creates more jobs but the average person doesn't exactly prosper because of it, it is not like the average NYer is all of a sudden able to afford to actually shop at Saks and Neimans...
Rich people have always been a part of the culture and flavor of NY just as much as hip-hop, immigrants, Irish bars and the like. Also, without more market rate housing, those people would just come and jack up the prices in your neighborhood.
To the OP: I love skyscrapers. Build more, build taller.
But how many of you on here can actually afford any of these supertall apartments/condos going up in the air?
Doesn't matter. The people who can afford them move up and out of properties that slide down the foodchain. You will never control the demand in New York, only the supply.
I am not a New Yorker but I say 'build baby build'
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But how many of you on here can actually afford any of these supertall apartments/condos going up in the air?
EXACTLY! And how many of us (who don't win the stupid housing lotteries) even get a shot at viewing them outside our windows!? Hardly anyone. Perhaps ask the same question in the China and Russia forum about what they think of our new Sky Line because they will have a much more nuanced and real-life answer.
I am not a New Yorker so i shouldn't be commenting on this thread, but as an Angeleno, i'm rooting for you New Yorkers and the entire Northeast region. It's embarrassing your beautiful dense architecutely well designed cities are losing population to subpar soulless places like Houston, Dallas, and Atlanta. Oh well, their lost.
Hearing that Manhattan and Brooklyn are thriving with highrise projects is exciting as an American. I believe the entire country is secretly rooting for New York's skyline to exceed new limits.
The way most New York city dwellers feel about a taller skyline is the way we Californains feel about SoCal's never ending sprawl. NY is the extreme dense tall city on steroids and Greater LA is the grand massive mid-density with multiple urban cores on steroids.
Chicago is a megacity aswell OP, but your city has just recently achieved mega status.
NYC isn't losing population to anywhere, it continues to grow. NYC has been a megacity since there has been such designation.
^^^ yeah we're not losing population at all. I know some cities are, but we're not one of those cities.
Anyway, it doesn't matter to me that I won't be able to afford to live in one of those new residential supertalls. I can still enjoy the fact that the skyline is growing & transforming
I am not a New Yorker so i shouldn't be commenting on this thread, but as an Angeleno, i'm rooting for you New Yorkers and the entire Northeast region. It's embarrassing your beautiful dense architecutely well designed cities are losing population to subpar soulless places like Houston, Dallas, and Atlanta. Oh well, their lost.
Hearing that Manhattan and Brooklyn are thriving with highrise projects is exciting as an American. I believe the entire country is secretly rooting for New York's skyline to exceed new limits.
The way most New York city dwellers feel about a taller skyline is the way we Californains feel about SoCal's never ending sprawl. NY is the extreme dense tall city on steroids and Greater LA is the grand massive mid-density with multiple urban cores on steroids.
Chicago is a megacity aswell OP, but your city has just recently achieved mega status.
I actually see LA differently. LA was the first city of the automobile, the first we associated with sprawl, and I think we still operate, to a degree, under that old paradigm that exemplified LA in the 1950s. But if I look at LA today, I see a city vastly different from the likes of Vegas, Phoenix, or Houston. The new Los Angeles is urban, committed to mass transit, becoming highly walkable in places. The Wilshire Corridor is almost Manhattan like in the way it creates a linear form of core area. No city can compare to LA in how it has developed its rapid transit system as of late. Few can compare with the diversity of its ethnic neighborhoods. LA is a vastly different city today and the degree of traditional urban culture/infrastructure has increased dramatically. Like you, I would never include Los Angeles among the more soulless cities you describe. LA is urban, has character, and definitely has a sense of place.
NYC isn't losing population to anywhere, it continues to grow. NYC has been a megacity since there has been such designation.
Yes, NYC is losing people, but of course new people are always moving in. In recent years there has been net population growth, but that may not last. We had decades of anemic growth to population loss.
Recent stats show rents going down in NYC and a net loss among millennials and gays.
The reality is unless one is super wealthy not many people can sustain living in NYC long term.
Net population is way up. There's always people both coming and going, but the population is rising.
Rents at the top end are not rising (saying they're dropping may be a bit overoptimistic.) This is because developers overbuilt in the luxury market. This is a good thing, and really how the system should work (builders build, and the market sets the price.)
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Yes, NYC is losing people, but of course new people are always moving in. In recent years there has been net population growth, but that may not last. We had decades of anemic growth to population loss.
Recent stats show rents going down in NYC and a net loss among millennials and gays.
The reality is unless one is super wealthy not many people can sustain living in NYC long term.
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