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It's going to be a major PITA, is what it's going to be....
Don't drive down that way during day, but on certain weeknights, weekends or holidays there are places on University, Broadway, and Fifth below 14th that will drive if occasion warrants. Because of the CF that is the street grid below 14th you cannot always get a direct east to west (or vice versa) route. Thus easiest way is to simply travel across 14th and down one of the above avenues.
You can no longer make left turns on much of 23rd or 34th from First to Park avenues. Fifth avenue near Madison Square park is another CF of pedestrian islands, no turns, etc... so tend to avoid if possible.
It's going to be a major PITA, is what it's going to be....
Don't drive down that way during day, but on certain weeknights, weekends or holidays there are places on University, Broadway, and Fifth below 14th that will drive if occasion warrants. Because of the CF that is the street grid below 14th you cannot always get a direct east to west (or vice versa) route. Thus easiest way is to simply travel across 14th and down one of the above avenues.
You can no longer make left turns on much of 23rd or 34th from First to Park avenues. Fifth avenue near Madison Square park is another CF of pedestrian islands, no turns, etc... so tend to avoid if possible.
People shouldn't be driving in most of Manhattan. If you do, you know what you're getting yourself into. It's been that way forever. Fifth and Madison used to be two-way streets. Although it was a horrendous mess to begin with when they each went one-way, we survived.
problem these days is ubers are clogging all the roads. As I understand this new law still allows for cars to come drop people off on 14th
Yea, rideshare/taxies and delivery trucks should be given zones where they can drop on and off curbside. That should be the carrot and it can be easily done by doing these as an extension of the area around fire hydrants and bus stops where there is currently on street parking. That should be the carrot. The stick is actual enforcement against double parking. I think cameras placed on MTA buses as passive enforcers is one way to bolster enforcement as buses ply the busiest routes.
Yea, rideshare/taxies and delivery trucks should be given zones where they can drop on and off curbside. That should be the carrot and it can be easily done by doing these as an extension of the area around fire hydrants and bus stops where there is currently on street parking. That should be the carrot. The stick is actual enforcement against double parking. I think cameras placed on MTA buses as passive enforcers is one way to bolster enforcement as buses ply the busiest routes.
Agree, with enforcement being key. If word gets out that people are actually getting hefty tickets on a regular basis, compliance will follow. Eventually.
problem these days is ubers are clogging all the roads. As I understand this new law still allows for cars to come drop people off on 14th
They have to, there's tons of residential along the whole of 14th street, and or those who live just above or below. That and of course you have tons of shopping/commercial and education.
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