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The story says he's being fired just before he's eligible for a pension. That's not entirely accurate. He may be short of the 20 years he needs to get half pay upon retirement, but he is vested in his pension and can start receiving benefits at age 62, like most retirees do. He just can't start receiving his pension while he's in his 40s. The police had a great union to get that perk.
He gets nothing unless the job allows him to vest. Fired is fired. He'll be lucky to get his contributions back.
FYI, a real vested pension starts at what would have been one's 20th year, not 62 years old. If a cop leaves at 15 years and 36 years old, they start collecting the adjusted pension 5 years later.
We all agree that stealing is wrong and foolish and that he may have done it before but I would have expected a fine, docked vacation days or some type of suspension. Surely, if he were a bad cop he wouldn't have been on the force that long. Unless there are other serious transgressions in his personnel file, I don't believe the outcome fit the crime.
He gets nothing unless the job allows him to vest. Fired is fired. He'll be lucky to get his contributions back.
FYI, a real vested pension starts at what would have been one's 20th year, not 62 years old. If a cop leaves at 15 years and 36 years old, they start collecting the adjusted pension 5 years later.
Vested means you can leave the job and you will have pension benefits at some later date. You don't have to work 20 years as a cop to have a vested pension. (Unless you are calling a 20 year retiree at half pay a "real vested pension".) I doubt being fired will cause the cop to lose the benefits he's vested so far, considering cops who have been fired after being convicted of crimes still get their pensions.
Once you become vested, you may leave public employment and, at a later date, apply for and receive your retirement benefit. Your vested retirement benefit will be based on service and salary earned when you were an active member.
This guy absolutely deserved to be fired! Is he nuts trying to get his job back? Low life. He's getting destroyed on every cop facebook page I've seen. Screw him.
He should be. He stole from a suspects car? What's next, stealing from victims?
Keeping him only would definitely violate the integrity of the police force. Maybe he would also steal from his colleagues if they aren't paying attention. Stealing is stealing.
We all agree that stealing is wrong and foolish and that he may have done it before but I would have expected a fine, docked vacation days or some type of suspension. Surely, if he were a bad cop he wouldn't have been on the force that long. Unless there are other serious transgressions in his personnel file, I don't believe the outcome fit the crime.
Maybe they suspected him of something or their were complaints against him.
It's perfectly legal to fire someone for stealing. Anyone at a private sector job would be fired for stealing. A teacher would be fired for stealing from his/her students. A doctor would lose his or her license for stealing from his/her patients. A lawyer would be disbarred for stealing from his/her clients.
Vested means you can leave the job and you will have pension benefits at some later date. You don't have to work 20 years as a cop to have a vested pension. (Unless you are calling a 20 year retiree at half pay a "real vested pension".) I doubt being fired will cause the cop to lose the benefits he's vested so far, considering cops who have been fired after being convicted of crimes still get their pensions.
People who are fired after 20 get to keep their pension, not prior. And that only for non-felonies and non-job related. Think DWI, misdemeanor domestic etc.
Like I said earlier, you are confusing people who are allowed to vest out with those who are outright fired. The commissioner could allow this cop to vest. He would then receive his pension in a few months when his 20th anniversary rolls around. If he is fired, there is no pension at all as he is short of 20 years and being fired for an on duty incident.
Seems a little bit extreme to me. What do y'all think?
They don't get fired for much worse why should he get fired?
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