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Starbucks should just charge a cover charge at the door which includes one drink.
Stop profiling people and just start kicking EVERYONE out.
In some ways SB has started down that line....
Newer stores in NYC at least often tend to be smaller with less seating. Some older stores seem to be reducing seating as well. Walked past the 85th and Lex SB the other day and seems to me that there are less seats in that place than past. Haven't been down that way in ages so could be wrong.
The rest unfortunately comes down to this being NYC; a place of bleeding heart liberals and currently presided over by a mayor (and good amount of city council members) that have some very odd ideas about private property. That is just because you open a business that includes public seating, you don't always have the right to control.
Makes me wonder what is your relationship with Starbucks. Hum....
I like Starbucks just fine. I'm about as desirable a coffee customer as they come.
Probably spend $2-3000 annually at Dunkin' Donuts and Starbucks- and probably spend about 5 minutes in the store per visit on average, some days 1 minute, some 30- moreso towards the quick in an out.
In any other loyalty industry- Fine Restaurants, Hotels, Air Travel, higher revenue customers are elevated.
Starbucks seems to bend over backwards for the people who take up the most of their time and net them the least of their money. I will frequent places (including Starbucks some stores) which cater less to loiterers, panhandlers, and homeless.
Newer stores in NYC at least often tend to be smaller with less seating. Some older stores seem to be reducing seating as well. Walked past the 85th and Lex SB the other day and seems to me that there are less seats in that place than past. Haven't been down that way in ages so could be wrong.
The rest unfortunately comes down to this being NYC; a place of bleeding heart liberals and currently presided over by a mayor (and good amount of city council members) that have some very odd ideas about private property. That is just because you open a business that includes public seating, you don't always have the right to control.
I’ve noticed this as well. The new Starbucks stores are typically half the size of the old ones, play music louder, have a few if any bar stool style seats and that’s it.
The one near my office in TriBeCa recently renovated and now has half the seating area and they got rid of their bathroom.
I’ve noticed this as well. The new Starbucks stores are typically half the size of the old ones, play music louder, have a few if any bar stool style seats and that’s it.
The one near my office in TriBeCa recently renovated and now has half the seating area and they got rid of their bathroom.
Starbucks has no one to blame but themselves if their stores became full of freeloading homeless, mommie brigades, work from "home" types, de facto senior centers, after school centers, etc....
When they first opened and expanded around USA SB promoted the "coffee house" culture of Seattle, Europe and so forth. Much like "Friends" or "Frasier" people were encouraged to arrive and remain while sipping their over priced (and not very good often) lattes. Things went from bad to worse when SB installed free WiFi.
Never underestimate the power and scope of moochers. Sadly anytime something is "free" there simply are those that will take advantage.
You've got people who arrive at a SB with their laptops or tablets shortly after opening, and remain basically all day or at least a good part of it often only buying one beverage. They clog up table space and generally act as if they own the place.
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