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Old 06-21-2018, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, NYC
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I was wondering if they prefer the Manhattan Chinatown because they were Cantonese, but it turns out your Chinese friends are from different parts of Chinatown. Maybe they just don't care for the Flushing hype enough to ride the 7 train that far. And do you think maybe that bougie Chinese people are more likely to have a strong preference for Flushing?
The richest ones in my friend circle seem to prefer Manhattan, though a select few live in Jersey. The few that live in Chinatown don't really seem to travel far. One of my friends from Shanghai lives in a pretty high up and very nice apartment in Times Square. Another wears extremely nice clothes and lives in Greenwich Village somewhere. I think they care more about the modernness or fun of a city than being segregated into a neighborhood from what I can tell.

The only one's that go to Flushing in any sort of regular interval is a friend whom grew up in the Bland Houses whose parents are from Shanghai or around it (he lives in Flushing, so it makes sense), a friend from Chengdu whom lives in a newer apartment in LIC (she dreams we all move there and then we laugh because uh, no), and my Signapore friend who lives in West Village and drives. Some go if they can get a ride from her, otherwise it's 'too far'. Another friend from Chengdu lives on 30th between 8th and 9th and has never been to Flushing even though she's probably the one closest to a 7 stop of my friends in Manhattan.

Honestly, it's really varied. I'm not sure what 'group' frequents Flushing anymore. Maybe older than 35 years old? I've been to Flushing more than a good number of my friends from China. Can't say from the friends of mine in NYC as they have 18 years on me here haha.
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Old 06-21-2018, 02:14 PM
 
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Honestly, it's really varied. I'm not sure what 'group' frequents Flushing anymore. Maybe older than 35 years old? I've been to Flushing more than a good number of my friends from China. Can't say from the friends of mine in NYC as they have 18 years on me here haha.
People use to go for the street food (BBQ), dim sum, hotpot, all night karaoke places, and the grocery stores. The majority of your comment just speaks to both you and the people around you getting old. In addition, now a days the grocery stores deliver to your home so no need to travel to Chinatown.

Chinatown groceries are the only providers of live seafood in the NYC metro area creating a big demand for people wanting to visit a Chinatown.
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Old 06-21-2018, 03:16 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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People use to go for the street food (BBQ), dim sum, hotpot, all night karaoke places, and the grocery stores. The majority of your comment just speaks to both you and the people around you getting old. In addition, now a days the grocery stores deliver to your home so no need to travel to Chinatown.

Chinatown groceries are the only providers of live seafood in the NYC metro area creating a big demand for people wanting to visit a Chinatown.
Also, several more modern Chinese restaurants, especially sichuan and hot pot have opened up in Manhattan as of late though not necessarily Chinatown. All night karaoke places in Manhattan, often operated by Japanese and Korean, have a pretty large Chinese clientele as well judging from their song lists.
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Old 06-22-2018, 09:41 AM
 
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you just speak for a small group of chinese who live in Manhattan. Of course they prefer manhattan. But 250000 Chinese live in Queens, and a lot of Chinese living in LI who will frequent Flushing basically for everything they need, groceries, doctors, kid's education, etc.

As for young chinese, go to Prince St in Flushing at night.There are so many fashionable eateries, bars, that cater to the young and rich.

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The richest ones in my friend circle seem to prefer Manhattan, though a select few live in Jersey. The few that live in Chinatown don't really seem to travel far. One of my friends from Shanghai lives in a pretty high up and very nice apartment in Times Square. Another wears extremely nice clothes and lives in Greenwich Village somewhere. I think they care more about the modernness or fun of a city than being segregated into a neighborhood from what I can tell.

The only one's that go to Flushing in any sort of regular interval is a friend whom grew up in the Bland Houses whose parents are from Shanghai or around it (he lives in Flushing, so it makes sense), a friend from Chengdu whom lives in a newer apartment in LIC (she dreams we all move there and then we laugh because uh, no), and my Signapore friend who lives in West Village and drives. Some go if they can get a ride from her, otherwise it's 'too far'. Another friend from Chengdu lives on 30th between 8th and 9th and has never been to Flushing even though she's probably the one closest to a 7 stop of my friends in Manhattan.

Honestly, it's really varied. I'm not sure what 'group' frequents Flushing anymore. Maybe older than 35 years old? I've been to Flushing more than a good number of my friends from China. Can't say from the friends of mine in NYC as they have 18 years on me here haha.
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Old 06-22-2018, 09:46 AM
 
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People use to go for the street food (BBQ), dim sum, hotpot, all night karaoke places, and the grocery stores. The majority of your comment just speaks to both you and the people around you getting old. In addition, now a days the grocery stores deliver to your home so no need to travel to Chinatown.

Chinatown groceries are the only providers of live seafood in the NYC metro area creating a big demand for people wanting to visit a Chinatown.
Javawood is in his 20s, he's not old. And he seems to be more in touch with the Chinese community than the vast majority of CD posters.

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you just speak for a small group of chinese who live in Manhattan. Of course they prefer manhattan. But 250000 Chinese live in Queens, and a lot of Chinese living in LI who will frequent Flushing basically for everything they need, groceries, doctors, kid's education, etc.

As for young chinese, go to Prince St in Flushing at night.There are so many fashionable eateries, bars, that cater to the young and rich.
There are a ton of young Chinese people walking around Chinatown/LES also. Perhaps there are more young people on the Fuzhou side. The "only old people are in Manhattan Chinatown" thing is not true at all from what I can tell.
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Old 06-22-2018, 09:55 AM
 
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you just speak for a small group of chinese who live in Manhattan. Of course they prefer manhattan. But 250000 Chinese live in Queens, and a lot of Chinese living in LI who will frequent Flushing basically for everything they need, groceries, doctors, kid's education, etc.

As for young chinese, go to Prince St in Flushing at night.There are so many fashionable eateries, bars, that cater to the young and rich.
There are a lot of young Chinese people in Flushing or Chinatown. They're both far enough apart, as is Sunset Park, that they end up serving different communities and just close enough that they're not completely different worlds. Prince Street is sometimes kind of fun though it has a very particular kind of fashionable. I do love the sichuan restaurants that have popped up along there. With all that development, I'm wondering how much longer that big surface parking lot can last.

One thing Chinatown continues to have is accessibility to a much broader audience of non-Chinese given its central location.
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Old 06-22-2018, 09:59 AM
 
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That's true. But that's why most restaurants in CHintown are either cantonese or fake chinese food. haven't heard any new authentic chinese restuarants openning there. there are tons of new resturant opening in flushing. Haidilao (the king of hotpot) will come to flushing soon.

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There are a lot of young Chinese people in Flushing or Chinatown. They're both far enough apart, as is Sunset Park, that they end up serving different communities and just close enough that they're not completely different worlds. Prince Street is sometimes kind of fun though it has a very particular kind of fashionable. I do love the sichuan restaurants that have popped up along there. With all that development, I'm wondering how much longer that big surface parking lot can last.

One thing Chinatown continues to have is accessibility to a much broader audience of non-Chinese given its central location.
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Old 06-22-2018, 10:06 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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That's true. But that's why most restaurants in CHintown are either cantonese or fake chinese food. haven't heard any new authentic chinese restuarants openning there. there are tons of new resturant opening in flushing. Haidilao (the king of hotpot) will come to flushing soon.
You also forget Fujianese, Teochew and the Vietnamese and Malaysian restaurants run by Chinese immigrants from those places. Southern Chinese, including that of the southern Chinese diaspora, is where Chinatown is relatively strong. Plus, there's good or at least interesting "fake" Chinese food in parts.

Also, we both know that Little Sheep has a better soup base than Haidilao--let's not kid ourselves here. Haidilao is good, but that soup base isn't even close to being as good as Little Sheep.

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Old 06-22-2018, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Lower East Side, NYC
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I wish the Little Sheep on the Bowery was as good as the one in Flushing. My friends like Spice World though because, according to them, it's the more authentic place because they do the thing where you have a bear made out of oil and you let it melt in the Ma La broth as it boils. Poor bear! I prefer Hometown in Little Italy/Chinatown though because it has good quality foods, great sauce selection, delicious broths, and is all you can eat. The quality of the food tastes similar to Spice World to me, but I prefer hometowns broths. I also like how I can have my own pot as I don't like to share. Diehard for Ma La and Curry bases. Haven't tried Haidilao yet, maybe one day.

Also, there's a rave I'm going to in Flushing on Main St in a rented out kereoke place on July 13th if anyone's interested. Bwahahaha!!
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Old 06-22-2018, 11:26 AM
 
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are you a chinese? Little Sheep? are you kidding? that brand has been out of fashion in China for a long time. Actually, the hottest hotpot brand in China is is Xiang Tian Xia (Spicy world), which is now in Flushing. You need to wait 3 hours before you get a table

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You also forget Fujianese, Teochew and the Vietnamese and Malaysian restaurants run by Chinese immigrants from those places. Southern Chinese, including that of the southern Chinese diaspora, is where Chinatown is relatively strong. Plus, there's good or at least interesting "fake" Chinese food in parts.

Also, we both know that Little Sheep has a better soup base than Haidilao--let's not kid ourselves here. Haidilao is good, but that soup base isn't even close to being as good as Little Sheep.
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