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Old 08-28-2018, 05:17 PM
 
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I'm sorry, but I disagree. I live in a historic area as well, and I moved there precisely for that reason. I'll be damned if I'm going to let de Blasio let the developers walk in and have their way. They should continue to fight and try to preserve their neighborhood. The UWS... Please. It's mainly transplants that don't have a clue. On the UES, most of what is going up isn't in the heart of the wealth such as 5th. I've seen a few buildings go up. One was recently completed last year along 86th between Madison and Park. It is built within the scale of other buildings in the area. We hired attorneys and fought like hell for years until the development was shelved and shelved for good. They will put luxury buildings in instead that are within scale of the area, not these monstrosities.

Again you don't live on UES, I do; and trust me there is new construction going up all over the UES, and no not all of it is on "Fifth Avenue". https://ny.curbed.com/maps/upper-eas...uction-map-nyc


The Upper East Side Is Making Up for Lost Time With These Luxurious New Developments | | Observer


That last bit shows how little you know about the UES since there isn't any land or whatever to develop on Fifth, and no one is tearing down anything to build new either.


For the record rich heartland of money on UES stretches from Fifth to Lexington or even Third in places. It then skips over some areas and goes over to East End.
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Old 08-28-2018, 07:11 PM
 
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Again you don't live on UES, I do; and trust me there is new construction going up all over the UES, and no not all of it is on "Fifth Avenue". https://ny.curbed.com/maps/upper-eas...uction-map-nyc


The Upper East Side Is Making Up for Lost Time With These Luxurious New Developments | | Observer


That last bit shows how little you know about the UES since there isn't any land or whatever to develop on Fifth, and no one is tearing down anything to build new either.


For the record rich heartland of money on UES stretches from Fifth to Lexington or even Third in places. It then skips over some areas and goes over to East End.
You don't know where I live. I don't ever recall stating specifically. Only stated that I have two residences. One in the outer boroughs, and one in Manhattan, precisely for such arguments, so you know what can do with that I live in such and such area...

Right... That's why there was a new building going up right on Fifth in the 60s...
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Old 08-28-2018, 07:28 PM
 
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You don't know where I live. I don't ever recall stating specifically. Only stated that I have two residences. One in the outer boroughs, and one in Manhattan, precisely for such arguments, so you know what can do with that I live in such and such area...

Right... That's why there was a new building going up right on Fifth in the 60s...

If you're talking about 815 Fifth, that hot mess isn't "new" to me; but rather an ongoing saga that started in 2012 and is just finishing up.
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Old 08-28-2018, 07:49 PM
 
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The building is a skinny monster that dwarfs the surrounding area of already- gigantic density of buildings however which way you want to word it. Also wouldn't it feel weird living in one of those units? It would be like living on a shaky ride at the County Fair.


The units will likely cost over 1 Million each and will be one unit per floor, or multi-floored units. I guess it is pretty bad ass, but it is not going to be my first choice to buy anything like that because it's so skinny. Also because of it's skinniness and wobbliness, the thing looks like it could literally fall over, onto neighboring buildings. For that reason the construction itself could be a liability more so than just a legal issue because of the way it steals the skyline.



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Old 08-28-2018, 10:04 PM
 
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The crusty old WASPs of Sutton Place who are largely behind opposition to this building have filed numerous legal actions; all lost.


These ossified dinosaurs somehow just don't get the message that NYC (Manhattan in particular) is changing. Used to running their white glove (and largely white only) Sutton and Beekman Place co-ops and rentals they still believe WASPs and or at least persons like themselves run the city as well.


Even Uma Thurman couldn't take it any longer; just a few years after getting into River House, she's selling and looking for a place downtown.

they forgot that debalsio is in charge now.
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Old 08-28-2018, 10:33 PM
 
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they forgot that debalsio is in charge now.

Truth to tell that segment of NYC population has been dying out and or waning in political influence for decades now.


WASPS in particular once controlled banking, finance, "Wall Street", advertising, etc.. which now are mostly run by Jews or others who aren't at least WASPS.


https://ny.curbed.com/2014/7/24/1006...-pad-to-france


https://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/07/f...Manhattan.html


There are also other forces at work.


For ages the ultimate prize for certain people was being allowed to buy into any of the exclusive (and restricted) white glove pre-war co-ops on Sutton Place, Beekman Place, and UES (Fifth, Park, Madison avenues). As such they put up with the intrusive and sometimes insulting board package process in hopes of getting in; that has changed.


People are fed up with the board "package" and quite frankly the xenophobic, intrusive, (often) demeaning and racially bias process to get into some of these buildings. Many also are balking at the "all cash" requirement for buying.


Happily for such persons there has been an explosion of new condo construction and or people are discovering townhouse/mansion living again. More worrisome is the fact that downtown (below say 34th Street, and certainly 23rd) has become the new sought after destination for "money" both new and old.


Sales at new luxury condos like Greenwich Lane (former Saint Vincent's hospital campus) are booming as people flock to Chelsea, West Village, Greenwich Village, Tribeca, SoHo, Financial District and now even East Village and Lower East Side.
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