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Old 11-18-2022, 07:20 AM
 
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Yesterday during rush hour I walked down the 34th Street Subway entrance and suddenly a woman came out of the subway gated door. Then I see another woman walked up and just walked right through without paying. Then suddenly she was joined by multiple people walking through like nothing. I walked up next to the gate and I was about to swipe my metrocard and a guy next to me just showed me the door signaling me to just go through. I hesitated that I have never fare beat during my adult life. But then there were just a line of people going through it. Then I said eff, I have to get on the train fast.

Is this the new norm?
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Old 11-18-2022, 07:48 AM
 
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do you want a gold star?
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Old 11-18-2022, 09:52 AM
 
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This is a classic example of how turning a blind eye to minor offenses leads to escalation of crime. I'm not judging you, OP -- it's difficult to do the right thing when so many others are benefitting from being permitted to do the wrong thing. I'm just pointing out what should be the obvious -- that our law enforcement officers, prosecutors and courts need to start cracking down on minor and quality of life offenses if they are serious about keeping our subways and our people safe.
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Old 11-18-2022, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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you're lucky u werent popped. 34th st is not the place to hop.
i watched some black guy get popped on 125th street hopping the turnstile, and laughed aloud
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Old 11-18-2022, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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This is a classic example of how turning a blind eye to minor offenses leads to escalation of crime. I'm not judging you, OP -- it's difficult to do the right thing when so many others are benefitting from being permitted to do the wrong thing. I'm just pointing out what should be the obvious -- that our law enforcement officers, prosecutors and courts need to start cracking down on minor and quality of life offenses if they are serious about keeping our subways and our people safe.
they're in the subways enforcing it now
the MTA told its bus drivers to crack down on fare evasion
the other day on the my local route, this black dude gets on the bus without saying anything to the driver, he calls him over, and they verbally sparred for a minute. the guy winds up getting off the bus
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Old 11-18-2022, 11:08 AM
 
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Yesterday during rush hour I walked down the 34th Street Subway entrance and suddenly a woman came out of the subway gated door. Then I see another woman walked up and just walked right through without paying. Then suddenly she was joined by multiple people walking through like nothing. I walked up next to the gate and I was about to swipe my metrocard and a guy next to me just showed me the door signaling me to just go through. I hesitated that I have never fare beat during my adult life. But then there were just a line of people going through it. Then I said eff, I have to get on the train fast.

Is this the new norm?
It’s not a new norm, you broke the law. Not to mention there are cops stationed on almost every station now - did you know?


Also, assuming you were in a rush, why did you think it’ll be quicker to whiz through the door instead of swiping through the gate?
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Old 11-18-2022, 01:51 PM
 
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Yesterday during rush hour I walked down the 34th Street Subway entrance and suddenly a woman came out of the subway gated door. Then I see another woman walked up and just walked right through without paying. Then suddenly she was joined by multiple people walking through like nothing. I walked up next to the gate and I was about to swipe my metrocard and a guy next to me just showed me the door signaling me to just go through. I hesitated that I have never fare beat during my adult life. But then there were just a line of people going through it. Then I said eff, I have to get on the train fast.

Is this the new norm?

Because you have confessed, you are forgiven!
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Old 11-18-2022, 02:23 PM
 
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Yesterday during rush hour I walked down the 34th Street Subway entrance and suddenly a woman came out of the subway gated door. Then I see another woman walked up and just walked right through without paying. Then suddenly she was joined by multiple people walking through like nothing. I walked up next to the gate and I was about to swipe my metrocard and a guy next to me just showed me the door signaling me to just go through. I hesitated that I have never fare beat during my adult life. But then there were just a line of people going through it. Then I said eff, I have to get on the train fast.

Is this the new norm?
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This is a classic example of how turning a blind eye to minor offenses leads to escalation of crime. I'm not judging you, OP -- it's difficult to do the right thing when so many others are benefitting from being permitted to do the wrong thing. I'm just pointing out what should be the obvious -- that our law enforcement officers, prosecutors and courts need to start cracking down on minor and quality of life offenses if they are serious about keeping our subways and our people safe.
The moral degradation of society. Every third world **** hole became one because of this. Otherwise normal people are forced to engage in amoral behavior. That's what the politicians in this city want.
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Old 11-20-2022, 07:32 AM
 
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they're in the subways enforcing it now
the MTA told its bus drivers to crack down on fare evasion
the other day on the my local route, this black dude gets on the bus without saying anything to the driver, he calls him over, and they verbally sparred for a minute. the guy winds up getting off the bus
Unfortunately, the way things are today, the bus driver puts himself or herself at great risk doing this. At least the cops at the subway turnstiles are armed and partnered with backup not far away. The bus driver is defenseless. In my opinion, they really need to flood the city with cops and resume stop and frisk and broken windows policing, but even that would be ineffective due to the no cash bail law and the lax prosecutors/judges. They have replaced broken windows policing with revolving door justice.
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Old 11-20-2022, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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Unfortunately, the way things are today, the bus driver puts himself or herself at great risk doing this. At least the cops at the subway turnstiles are armed and partnered with backup not far away. The bus driver is defenseless. In my opinion, they really need to flood the city with cops and resume stop and frisk and broken windows policing, but even that would be ineffective due to the no cash bail law and the lax prosecutors/judges. They have replaced broken windows policing with revolving door justice.
theres layers to it. folks should get a fair fares card, if they qualify, and keep it movin.
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