Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New York > New York City
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 11-29-2023, 12:03 PM
 
34,078 posts, read 47,269,417 times
Reputation: 14262

Advertisements

Vertical greenhouses

Can New York City's Skyscrapers Accommodate Vertical Farming?

Cut down on delivery fees
Lower carbon footprint
Fresh food
We are here
Time to start thinking outside of the box
__________________
"The man who sleeps on the floor, can never fall out of bed." -Martin Lawrence

Forum TOS: http://www.city-data.com/forumtos.html
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-29-2023, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
5,462 posts, read 5,706,736 times
Reputation: 6093
Farming is very bad utilization of square footage as far as economic activity is concerned.
The real estate is simply too expensive to just make it produce crops.
Notice how the people who always advocate for this kind of thing are not thinking about economic viability of such projects. It is always some hippie dippie ecology professor.

If vertical farming in NYC (or any other city) was viable, you'd see these projects being financed by developers.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-29-2023, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
61,673 posts, read 87,060,489 times
Reputation: 131643
It's all about embracing new ideas and making them work. Not many people in the US are ready for that. Old habits die hard here.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-29-2023, 07:16 PM
 
2,614 posts, read 1,213,322 times
Reputation: 2792
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeventhFloor View Post
Vertical greenhouses

Can New York City's Skyscrapers Accommodate Vertical Farming?

Cut down on delivery fees
Lower carbon footprint
Fresh food
We are here
Time to start thinking outside of the box
Interesting idea.

My question comes from how clean will the agricultural products be?

NYC is pretty green for a city its size, but still a very large city with much pollution. Is that the ideal place for mass agricultural endeavors?

If so, I think it could be a good idea compared to the alternative.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-29-2023, 08:25 PM
 
3,766 posts, read 4,101,710 times
Reputation: 7791
Quote:
Originally Posted by elnina View Post
It's all about embracing new ideas and making them work. Not many people in the US are ready for that. Old habits die hard here.
The US has been always been at the forefront of such technology, and NYC is where it all started. A few years ago, Amazon was involved in starting an urban farm in a high rise building in Brooklyn. They claimed they could grow over 200,000 pounds of vegetables a year. I don't know what became of it, but there are other similar projects in NYC.

https://www.nycfoodpolicy.org/8-comm...their-harvest/

The big problem is making it work financially. I would think that well located office buildings in Manhattan would have more valuable uses, particularly residential.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-30-2023, 07:31 AM
 
412 posts, read 228,603 times
Reputation: 234
You'd still have to process/package/treat and transport for sale. I doubt you could get enough walk ins to buy the product to make it viable.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-01-2023, 08:07 AM
 
34,078 posts, read 47,269,417 times
Reputation: 14262
Think outside the box
It all starts with a hypothesis
The basis of science
It can be translated into economics
As long as there is cooperation
A lot of our current issues are primarily because people refuse to cooperate
Every cause has an effect
So we have to ask ourselves
What makes people refuse to cooperate
Solving problems are not easy but they're not difficult
__________________
"The man who sleeps on the floor, can never fall out of bed." -Martin Lawrence

Forum TOS: http://www.city-data.com/forumtos.html
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-01-2023, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
5,462 posts, read 5,706,736 times
Reputation: 6093
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeventhFloor View Post
Think outside the box
It all starts with a hypothesis
The basis of science
It can be translated into economics
As long as there is cooperation
A lot of our current issues are primarily because people refuse to cooperate
Every cause has an effect
So we have to ask ourselves
What makes people refuse to cooperate
Solving problems are not easy but they're not difficult
People cooperate all the time.
If the economics work out, people self-organize around the idea.
A corporation is merely a group of people trying to achieve a common goal.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-01-2023, 10:20 AM
 
34,078 posts, read 47,269,417 times
Reputation: 14262
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gantz View Post
People cooperate all the time.
If the economics work out, people self-organize around the idea.
A corporation is merely a group of people trying to achieve a common goal.
No, that's called a cooperative.

cor·po·ra·tion
/ˌkôrpəˈrāSHən/
noun
a company or group of people authorized to act as a single entity (legally a person) and recognized as such in law.

co·op·er·a·tive
/kōˈäp(ə)rədiv,kōˈäpəˌrādiv/
adjective
involving mutual assistance in working toward a common goal.
"every member has clearly defined tasks in a cooperative enterprise"

noun
a farm, business, or other organization which is owned and run jointly by its members, who share the profits or benefits.
__________________
"The man who sleeps on the floor, can never fall out of bed." -Martin Lawrence

Forum TOS: http://www.city-data.com/forumtos.html
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-01-2023, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
5,462 posts, read 5,706,736 times
Reputation: 6093
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeventhFloor View Post
No, that's called a cooperative.
Not the modern legal definition, as in a corporate body - a group of people acting together.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:




Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New York > New York City
View detailed profiles of:

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top