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This subject just came up on a different thread (I think in the Connecticut forum). States are sovereign within their borders. They can create, expand, contract or even abolish cities, towns and counties within their borders. Incredibly as it seems, that means the state could abolish New York City or separate it into 5 or more separate cities/boroughs. Not a bad idea btw.
Or the state just could literally take away New York City's lands in the Catskills. While this would be difficult because the city would oppose it, there are ways it could be done. For instance, it could be sweetened by the promise of say, billions of additional dollars of state money for the city schools. So the city would oppose it but the people would be for it. Because of politics the people will get the schools but the city looses its lands in the Catskills.
The dissolution of NYC as we know it or the state confiscating the watershed lands are just a pipe dream that I will never see in my lifetime. The schools will always be a bottomless pit of expenses especially with the unions being involved but water is more important, even Andy isn't stupid enough to threaten the infrastructure of one of the worlds major cities.
The dissolution of NYC as we know it or the state confiscating the watershed lands are just a pipe dream that I will never see in my lifetime. The schools will always be a bottomless pit of expenses especially with the unions being involved but water is more important, even Andy isn't stupid enough to threaten the infrastructure of one of the worlds major cities.
Yeah, I agree it would be difficult, but nothing is impossible. Especially since New York City has such a huge percentage of the state's population. My point however, is that the states can create or abolish cities if they desire.
As mentioned, there are some law differences in regards to Upstate, NYC and Long Island in terms of driver's license requirements.
My thing is how much responsibility is there from Upstate leaders in terms of coming up with ways to "adjust" the playing field via consolidation or other forms of service sharing? Even in terms of regionalization, as a way to form a business alliance or for marketing purposes.
As much as we can blame Downstate for this or that, I also think there should be more of a demand from Upstate leadership to think outside of the box within the current framework of the state. I say that because even if Upstate breaks off and forms another state, but leaves things as is, you are still looking at school taxes being a big portion of your property taxes, concentrated poverty issues in parts of your cities and even in select other communities, needing ways to raise revenue or at least keep costs down, etc. So, I don't think just breaking off as is solves anything for Upstate NY either.
The dissolution of NYC as we know it or the state confiscating the watershed lands are just a pipe dream that I will never see in my lifetime. The schools will always be a bottomless pit of expenses especially with the unions being involved but water is more important, even Andy isn't stupid enough to threaten the infrastructure of one of the worlds major cities.
Meh, at least the NYC public schools seem to be improving almost across the board.
Why just Westchester and Rockland? The NYC metropolitan area as an economy and by commuters / transit resources goes significantly further up.
This can be reasonable especially when it comes to economic policies / laws.
A split itself isn't necessary, but the incentive to leverage tax policies with Albany having an eye on the NYC metropolitan area in order to have more for state coffers to award and kickstart programs elsewhere is detrimental in a lot of ways. NYC and its metropolitan area loses out from having wealth generated there spent elsewhere when there are a lot of improvements, especially in terms of infrastructure, that it needs. Upstate loses out, despite the money infusion, due to economic policies that makes little economic sense for their regions. It's not exactly dire, but it's also not great.
One thing that can be useful even within the current framework is to essentially expand the job market from the NYC metropolitan area. Improving rail transit to Buffalo could have done that as the string of cities from Buffalo to Rochester to Syracuse to Utica/Rome to Albany and down to the Mid-Hudson and then NYC are potentially a good set for pairs of routes to economically link up parts. Another is to extend the reach of Metro-North significantly especially west of the Hudson. You already see new businesses and population growth going to places out of rail reach from NYC but still making these economic connections such as Kingston, so it makes sense to cement the connection with actual frequent rail infrastructure. They did build that new Tappan Zee with the ability to carry rail, but then didn't actually put rail in. That's exciting.
New York State became the wealthiest and most powerful state in the US because of the closely linked economies of Upstate and Downstate. This can still be the case where the two actually augment each other. Policies like the Excelsior scholarship move towards that, but the awkward state-directed choosing of specific incredibly expensive propping up of a company or initiative here and there, especially in light of the corruption and pretty meagre returns on investment, seems definitely not to be the way. A focus on infrastructure and education as economic force multipliers underlining the entire marketplace and workforce rather than a select few companies instead would seem to make a lot more sense.
This part caught my eye: “Savills’ 30 Tech Cities are among the fastest-growing in the world; measured by metro area, together they’re forecast to add another 18 million inhabitants in the next decade,” says Nicky Wightman at Savills. “This will put ever greater pressure on existing infrastructure, posing a risk to city competitiveness.”
So, why not connect the state given the projected growth or even spread some of the industry out a bit more than it is now?
This part caught my eye: “Savills’ 30 Tech Cities are among the fastest-growing in the world; measured by metro area, together they’re forecast to add another 18 million inhabitants in the next decade,” says Nicky Wightman at Savills. “This will put ever greater pressure on existing infrastructure, posing a risk to city competitiveness.”
So, why not connect the state given the projected growth or even spread some of the industry out a bit more than it is now?
You do realize that Savills is a Real Estate Company and not a business analyst right?
You do realize that Savills is a Real Estate Company and not a business analyst right?
So...Either way, if any of the places on the list get a portion of the people projected, that is still a lot of people that those places have to account for.
Anyway, the point is that NYC has been viewed as being a “tech capital”, which there are plenty of other articles out there illustrating this and it would be nice if the state planned for other parts of the state to get in on that.
So...Either way, if any of the places on the list get a portion of the people projected, that is still a lot of people that those places have to account for.
Anyway, the point is that NYC has been viewed as being a “tech capital”, which there are plenty of other articles out there illustrating this and it would be nice if the state planned for other parts of the state to get in on that.
And NYC leads the pack right now for the Egg on the Face Award for how they handled the Amazon Deal, i'll wait and see what happens....
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