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Old 07-30-2009, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Houston TX
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My ex is such a smooth liar, you could catch him in the act of having sex with another woman and he could talk you out of what you saw.

Anyone know someone like that? I hated trusting him and having that trust thrown back at me, OR getting blamed for why he did it! He could turn ANYTHING around and smell like a rose. I couldn't trust myself to stick to my guns around him or my opinion even if I knew - I KNEW - I was right!

How do they do that? How do you - the smooth talkee - get around someone like that?
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:30 PM
 
Location: In my skin
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He couldn't talk me out of seeing that. Nay nay.

No doubt there are smooth talkers out there, but they depend on the weaknesses and naivete of their victims. It is certainly not your "fault", but there is a reason why he succeeds with you. Don't mean to offend.
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:39 PM
 
Location: OKC
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It's not that we can talk you out of what you saw. At least not all of us. Some of us charm our way out, and then the other party feels guilty to make such absurd accusations!

Anyway, as the famous rapper Shaggy once said, "It wasn't me!"
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Old 07-30-2009, 06:00 PM
 
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Yup. I know the type. They take advantage of your deep, dyin' love. Charm is definitely a good word for it. Makes me feel like a fool.
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Old 07-30-2009, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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It's not that we can talk you out of what you saw. At least not all of us. Some of us charm our way out, and then the other party feels guilty to make such absurd accusations!

Anyway, as the famous rapper Shaggy once said, "It wasn't me!"
A real smooth talker would have turned it into a threesome.
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Old 07-30-2009, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
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Are you sure your ex isn't also my ex?! I used to say that he could look out the window at a dark sky and argue very convincingly that it was daytime. No wonder I always felt like I was going crazy when I was with him! And the blame he'd heap on me for his own failings - oh, yes, all of this sounds very familiar. He'd argue and argue, and turn things around so that he was the victim and not the perpetrator. It was amazing. I left that marriage with a ton of guilt, and only after I had been out for a month or two did my mind begin to clear, and I began to realize what he had done. Was I completely blameless? Of course not, but I certainly wasn't solely responsible for our marriage failing.

What always fascinates me is that these people get to know you, and use your vulnerabilities and weaknesses against you for their own gain. There's usually just enough truth in what they're saying for you to think, "Hmm, maybe he's right?"
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Some place very cold
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Those types are crazy making. I avoid them!
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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Not only that, but they are incredibly DUMB, irresponsible, and brain damaged in some way.
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Coachella Valley, California
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A real smooth talker would have turned it into a threesome.
That's what I'm sayin'.
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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Letting them get away with it would make us masochists, or dependent on them in some way. You could always turn the tables on them, and give them a big bitter taste of their own medicine.
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