2023 Population Estimates for North Carolina (Durham: employment, calculated, statistics)
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Man you really belittle Charlotte. First of all Charlotte is 3 million not 2.5 million. Secondly Charlotte skyline is definitely on par with skylines larger than its population. Aa a DC native myself Charlotte offers quite a lot for it's size. It actually punchesabove its weight in many metrics. Not sure of the constant negative rhetoric you have against it.
It appears that many on this forum would love for Charlotte to become the Memphis of NC while the Triangle becomes the Nashville (in terms of Memphis formerly being larger but then declining to where Nashville eventually topped it). At the current growth rates they might be waiting a century or so to see it.
Charlotte is significantly closer in regional population/influence to Raleigh/The Triangle than it is to Atlanta.
As the kids say... BFFR.
Well...you are correct that the Charlotte Metro and Atlanta Metro (#8 in the country) are in two separate categories and that Charlotte (#23) should be compared to Orlando, St Louis, San Antonio, & Portland.
However it should not be compared to Raleigh (#41) because its almost twice the size of the Raleigh metro. Raleigh should be compared to Oklahoma City, Louisville, & Memphis.
Well...you are correct that the Charlotte Metro and Atlanta Metro (#8 in the country) are in two separate categories and that Charlotte (#23) should be compared to Orlando, St Louis, San Antonio, & Portland.
However it should not be compared to Raleigh (#41) because its almost twice the size of the Raleigh metro. Raleigh should be compared to Oklahoma City, Louisville, & Memphis.
If you want to completely ignore Durham/CH then sure...you can live in that fallacy of a comparison. Very silly though.
The Triangle is a CSA of 2.3 million and Charlotte is a CSA of 3.3 million. CSA is the most relevant metric in NC because of the MSA split in the Triangle and Triad not reflecting how those regions work together. The Charlotte CSA is nowhere close to the Atlanta CSA of 7.1 million, which is roughly the same population as Charlotte CSA + Triad CSA + Triangle CSA COMBINED. Atlanta and Charlotte are not peers as Atlanta is a top 10 CSA and Charlotte is a top 20 CSA and there is a big cliff after the Miami CSA (drops from 7 million people in the Miami area to 5.3 million in the Detroit CSA).
Looking at +/- 500k people from each major CSA in NC, the closest "peer" CSAs are:
Charlotte at 3.3 million: Cleveland, Denver, Portland, St. Louis, San Diego, Tampa
The Triangle at 2.3 million: Austin, Indianapolis, Sacramento, Las Vegas, Columbus, Nashville, Cincinnati, Milwaukee, Virginia Beach, Jacksonville
The Triad at 1.7 million: Milwaukee, Virginia Beach, Jacksonville, Greenville-Spartanburg, Oklahoma City, Grand Rapids
If we defined a peer CSA +/- 1 million instead of 500k:
The Charlotte CSA would have Minneapolis as an upper range peer and the Triangle as a lower range peer.
The Triangle would have Charlotte as its upper range peer and Fresno, CA as its lower range peer.
The Triad would have San Antonio as its upper range peer and Syracuse as its lower range peer.
Re the comment by architect77 about Charlotte's skyline looking bigger than the city size... I think Charlotte has a great skyline, but I think our skyline looking impressive relative to size is largely due to the CSAs that are bigger than us having weak skylines. Some of the larger regions in the #11 - #18 spot include Phoenix, Orlando, Detroit, and Cleveland which don't have the hugest skylines due to their economies. Charlotte looks comparable to peers like Denver, Portland, and San Diego though.
The U.S. Census has released its national and state population estimates as of July 1, 2023. A few items of note regarding North Carolina:
North Carolina's population grew by 139,526 over 2022 (was estimated at 10,695,965 last year vs. 10,835,491 now).
That puts the state at number 3 for numeric growth year-to-year among all states (behind Texas and Florida) and at number 5 for percent growth at 1.3% (behind South Carolina, Florida, Texas and Idaho).
The state still ranks ninth overall in population behind Georgia, but the gap between the two states is shrinking. Georgia stands at 11,029,227 for an advantage of just 193,736 over North Carolina.
Russell Smith, professor of geography at Winston-Salem State University, said people continue to discover the attractions that North Carolina has to offer. Recent economic development announcements are “opening a lot of people’s eyes about North Carolina as a great place to live,†Smith said, adding that fast-growing central parts of the state are “close to the mountains and close to the beach.â€
“When you combine affordability and economic opportunity, people are going to be attracted to that,†Smith said.
At the same time, he added, the growth comes with cautions: Fast growth equals more traffic and higher housing costs, as communities grapple with a lack of affordable housing.
Despite a smaller skyline than Atlanta, I prefer to visit, barhop, dine, or attend a theatrical performance in Charlotte than Atlanta any day. Atlanta's downtown has never been a comfortable place in my opinion. I believe uptown Charlotte is much better IMHO.
Agreed, but Atlanta's main skyline spans downtown and Midtown. Additionally there's Buckhead and the various suburban skylines like Perimeter and Cumberland.
According to the latest population estimates, Durham's population is now less than 10,000 short of Greensboro's population.
With Durham's growth rate being more than four times Greensboro's growth rate, I can easily see Durham overtaking Greensboro in another 3-4 years, assuming all other factors remain the same.
The U.S. Census has released its national and state population estimates as of July 1, 2023. A few items of note regarding North Carolina:
North Carolina's population grew by 139,526 over 2022 (was estimated at 10,695,965 last year vs. 10,835,491 now).
That puts the state at number 3 for numeric growth year-to-year among all states (behind Texas and Florida) and at number 5 for percent growth at 1.3% (behind South Carolina, Florida, Texas and Idaho).
The state still ranks ninth overall in population behind Georgia, but the gap between the two states is shrinking. Georgia stands at 11,029,227 for an advantage of just 193,736 over North Carolina.
According to the latest population estimates, Durham's population is now less than 10,000 short of Greensboro's population.
With Durham's growth rate being more than four times Greensboro's growth rate, I can easily see Durham overtaking Greensboro in another 3-4 years, assuming all other factors remain the same.
Durham will almost certainly officially be the 3rd largest city in the state by the 2030 Census.
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