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Old 09-19-2012, 05:24 PM
 
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Today's Ohio Fox News Poll: Obama +7

When even Fox News can't figure out a way to show Romney winning Ohio, it's probably time to be realistic about Romney's chances. Ohio is key. If Obama wins it, that pretty much seals the deal. Romney would have to take nearly every other swing state, which is not going to happen, either.
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:05 PM
 
Location: livin' the good life on America's favorite island
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election will come down to voter turnout. Romney has a chance. Black vote will not be 93% this time around. God help us if obama wins.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Cortland, Ohio
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I felt the same way about Bush, you'll get over it...........
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Beavercreek, OH
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election will come down to voter turnout. Romney has a chance. Black vote will not be 93% this time around. God help us if obama wins.
Hi ZnGuy--

Don't kid yourself. Show me a single time that less than 90% of the Black vote went to the Democrat candidate. I can guarantee it was before the 1968 realignment. (Back when the Democrats were the party of slavery, the party of Jim Crow, and the party of segregation.) The turnout will a factor - not in terms of how they will vote, but in terms of how many of them show up in the first place.
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:07 AM
 
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election will come down to voter turnout. Romney has a chance. Black vote will not be 93% this time around. God help us if obama wins.
Well, you should probably get used to the fact that Obama will be in for another 4 years. It's looking pretty obvious that Romney remembered that he's 65, sitting on about a quarter of a billion dollars, and doesn't have to work another day in his life. His campaign is becoming a joke to his detractors and a nightmare for his supporters.

And, as CG79 pointed out -- we survived Bush and the escorting of the economy directly off of a cliff. I think we'll make it through Obama's more or less measured approach.
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Old 09-20-2012, 01:47 AM
 
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I'm voting for Gary Johnson because I agree with libertarianism views more than R or D views. It was between Romney and Johnson for me at first, but Romney's political views based upon his religion just do not sit well with me. I'm not knocking freedom of religion, but it influences his decisions that effect the whole country. Plus with his overwhelming wealth, I'm not sure if he really understands how the other half (uh...majority) lives. I wanted to like the republican candidate, I really did. I don't want Obama for another 4 years but Romney just makes me laugh when he says he can relate to the middle class.

I know Johnson won't win, but I'm going to vote on my personal beliefs. Both Obama and Romney are terrible choices. Obama for his limitless spending and Romney for his very conservative beliefs on social issues and because I think it's hard to believe that he relates to the working class living paycheck to paycheck. That's one tall tale, even for a campaign!
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:17 AM
 
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Romney/Ryan will get my vote. Not wild about the choice, but Obama is a disaster. And no, it isn't Bush's fault. That's a pathetic argument. Using that logic, Republicans could say the recession started towards the end of Clinton's 2nd term, and when Clinton had the opportunity to do something about bin Laden he didn't, 9/11 happened, and the economy really took a dive afterwards. So maybe Obama should be blaming Clinton if he wants to blame someone else.

I consider myself an independent voter because there isn't a political party that I identify with. Politics1.com has a list of parties, and a short description of each. Eventually a new party will spring up that truly represents all Americans, even ones like me who are heterosexual single white men without children, don't earn alot of money, have good Christian values, and recognize the importance of having a strong military.

Some of the reasons I'll vote for Romney:

1) He wants to limit the government's out of control spending. Obama has added five to six trillion dollars to the national debt.

2) Romney will do a much better job of working with the Dems than Obama has with the Rebublicans. Obama's arrogance has been a huge problem and made it impossible for the two parties to get things done. Mayor Bloomberg of New York met Obama after Obama was elected and called him the most arrogant man he'd ever met.

3) Romney recognizes the military needs to be beefed up more than it is. Obama's clueless on this issue.

4) There's a holocaust going on in this country in the name of abortion. It's unbelievable that we'd allow the murder of innocent babies in the womb. If Obama wins he could end up nominating two Supreme Court justices in his 2nd turn.

5) Energy independence - Romney wants to make this country energy independent by 2020, Obama has been a disaster on this front.

6) Romney will fight for fair trade, especially against the Chinese.

7) They need to repeal the new Health Care law.

There are other reasons, but it's time to get ready for work.

Last comment - sad that many people who vote wont watch the debates, and don't really have a good idea what Romney stands for. But why they would vote for Obama again after the disaster he's been, is beyond me. It's scary.

We need a 3rd party that appeals to all Americans. There just isn't one out there yet that does that. For now though the Republican party comes the closest.
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:57 AM
 
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Obama. Mostly because I believe he deserves it but secondarily because I have an aversion to Romney.
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Old 09-20-2012, 09:09 AM
 
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Some of the reasons I'll vote for Romney:

1) He wants to limit the government's out of control spending. Obama has added five to six trillion dollars to the national debt.
You mean Romney who said that Obama recklessly!? cut military budget. In Romney' world, Obama spending on military more than the rest of the world combined is not sufficient. He wants more military spendings. Luckily we can limit the government's out of control spending by becoming a bona fide Banana Republic of the slums, military/police/prisons and palaces.

As for Obama debt, it's fictitious. The question to ask - where has Federal Reserve gotten extra 6 trillions to loan to government so it could give it to the obscenely wealthy so they could loan it to us? Correct. They created it out of thin air. The question to ask #2, why nation should apply very real physical and mental efforts to repay bankers for something they didn't spend an ounce of efforts to create? Trading thin air for real efforts is not right.

Obama is a true servant of the financial Capital. Obama didn't nationalize bankrupt banks for penny on a dollar in 2008 to stock bank with tax money and keep credit flowing (while looking for buyers), that would be commie, just imagine talk radio frenzy. That would have been hysteria unknown to human kind. Adding fictitious 6 trillions to nation's debt to save assets of obscenely rich is Marxist in talk radio world. Obama is Marxist in your world, right?

Guess what, you'll need to spend very real physical efforts to pay for 1) interest on private loans (on money Obama created and distributed to the wealthy so they could keep their lending businesses/assets and loan fresh money to you), 2) taxes to pay for national "debt" and interest on money bankers pulled straight from their arses. Sweet deal. Obama is Marxist right?

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There's a holocaust going on in this country in the name of abortion. It's unbelievable that we'd allow the murder of innocent babies in the womb.
Save a fetus kill a child, those little entitlement bundles, what a shame. As soon as a newborn leave a womb, he has no value for the right wing crowd battling entitlement mentality of the poor kids in the real need to finance very real entitlement mentality of the rich who never can have enough. Lives of tens of thousands of brown third world kids killed by American bombs, bullets and blockades for no good reason are not even on the right wing compassionate radar.

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Old 09-20-2012, 09:25 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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I'm voting for Gary Johnson because I agree with libertarianism views more than R or D views. It was between Romney and Johnson for me at first, but Romney's political views based upon his religion just do not sit well with me. I'm not knocking freedom of religion, but it influences his decisions that effect the whole country. Plus with his overwhelming wealth, I'm not sure if he really understands how the other half (uh...majority) lives. I wanted to like the republican candidate, I really did. I don't want Obama for another 4 years but Romney just makes me laugh when he says he can relate to the middle class.

I know Johnson won't win, but I'm going to vote on my personal beliefs. Both Obama and Romney are terrible choices. Obama for his limitless spending and Romney for his very conservative beliefs on social issues and because I think it's hard to believe that he relates to the working class living paycheck to paycheck. That's one tall tale, even for a campaign!

I'm with you. I was supporting Ron Paul, but I'm leaning toward Gary Johnson. Though I've NEVER been on board with Romney. Neither status quo candidate is getting my vote. People can say all that they want "a vote Johnson or Paul is a vote for Obama!" I say bull****! Why would I vote for candidates in which I do not agree with their policies? Sorry, but I don't play the "lesser of two evils" game or go along to get along.
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