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Old 06-27-2019, 03:56 PM
 
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There are a few tiny streams on a property I am acquiring near the Columbia River- there are some tiny steams (in. blue). on the topo map. They start from about 700 and spill into forest and perhaps the Columbia River. I guess this is actually on the Washington side but political boundaries shouldnt matter.


How can I "improve" a stream into one that is much larger?
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Old 06-27-2019, 05:24 PM
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It does make a difference which state you are in. Depending on the size of the stream, the water right to it might already belong elsewhere, in which case you can't really touch it - water rights are pretty serious business in Oregon and Washington. For Washington state, you'll need to check with Dept of Ecology:

https://ecology.wa.gov/Water-Shoreli...y/Water-rights
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Old 06-27-2019, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Salem, OR
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There are a few tiny streams on a property I am acquiring near the Columbia River- there are some tiny steams (in. blue). on the topo map. They start from about 700 and spill into forest and perhaps the Columbia River. I guess this is actually on the Washington side but political boundaries shouldnt matter.


How can I "improve" a stream into one that is much larger?
If you are in Oregon or Washington, most likely not. You likely don't have water rights to divert/dam up water. Washington doesn't even allow you to collect rainwater.
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Old 06-27-2019, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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Even if it could be done you need more info on things like topography, soils and hydrology to do it properly.
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Old 06-27-2019, 07:35 PM
 
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The entire stream from start till where it ends would be on my property- tiny means about 1 ft wide.
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Old 06-27-2019, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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hopefully this isnt in the Gorge Protection area?
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Old 06-27-2019, 07:52 PM
 
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It is not and I will check with building and planning - I am going to use much of this acreage for animals and am meeting with wildlife biologists in 2 weeks.




My question concerns whether this can be PHYSICALLY Done and HOW- not the politics.
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Old 06-27-2019, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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^given enough money, anything can be done physically.
Try ponds, catchment basins, Oregon beavers.
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Old 06-27-2019, 10:10 PM
 
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Only two ways to make a stream "larger"

1. Add more water to it somehow

2. Slow down the flow with a dam or other obstruction


Doing #1 would require re-routing some other stream or source of water into your stream which is unlikely to be practical absent some sort of major engineering.

Doing #2 could possibly run afoul of a variety of laws governing stream flow and riparian zones depending on where you are. Even small dams generally require permits. Not saying everyone always gets a permit simply to throw some large boulders in the water and create an ad-hoc dam. But that doesn't necessarily make it legal.
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Old 06-27-2019, 11:04 PM
 
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There are a few tiny streams on a property I am acquiring near the Columbia River- there are some tiny steams (in. blue). on the topo map. They start from about 700 and spill into forest and perhaps the Columbia River. I guess this is actually on the Washington side but political boundaries shouldnt matter.


How can I "improve" a stream into one that is much larger?

This is a very vague question. What exactly are you wanting to do? More importantly, why?
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