The Real Reason Behind Homelessness in Oregon. It's Not Drugs. (Canyonville: low income, appointed)

[Cloudy Dayz]

This is the real reason behind homelessness in Oregon and it has absolutely nothing to do with the drug problem. This is how Oregon is creating the homeless problem, not trying to solve it.

Case in point. The Forest Glen Living Facility in Canyonville. It's an assisted living facility for senior citizens, built back in 1962. A throwback to a time when Americans actually had some compassion and thought it would be a good idea to provide facilities like this to senior citizens so they wouldn't be living on the streets.

For the last 60 plus years the slumlords who have owned the building have made a killing collecting all the rent money and investing absolutely zero back into the property. The building still has the same 1960s decor as the day it opened. But the residents don't really care, because well it's not much, but at least they are not homeless.

But the resident's happy life started to come crashing down last year, when the slumlord got fed up with the pesky state regulators and all their fines for code and care violations. So he fired the nursing staff, and hired a new management company to provide the other services. But he was still getting fined for code violations. He decided in February to pull the plug on the facility. He fired the management company with no notice whatsoever to the residents leaving them paying rent but not even having the food services they are paying for.

Apparently the slumlord thought that would get rid of the residents, so he can redevelop the property. But bad news for him. Some of the management staff continued to work for free to take care of the residents, and community service organizations started bringing food to the residents.

In mid-March it came out that the Mayor of Canyonville was in cahoots with the landlord to redevelop the property and she was not happy that the residents were still in the building. So she has ordered that water to the building be shut off in May, to force the residents out of the building. But she is probably going to be disappointed again. Because even living in a building with no water will be preferable to the residents living on the streets.

This is the future for all public housing in Oregon. Of which 99% was built in the 1960s and 70s. It's old and it will not be replaced. Eventually public housing will be a thing of the past in Oregon, and all people on low incomes will be living on the streets. Increasing the homeless population to new levels.

And that is the real reason for homelessness in Oregon. The Fentanyl "Crisis" has nothing to do with it. Oregon politicians don't want to provide housing to low income people. They want them on the streets, and that is why the homeless problem in Oregon is what it is.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSm0I2GwRbY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnMIDl4LKVA

[Metlakatla]

I don't think that place was "public housing," was it? It was owned by a couple of private businessmen, both with long histories of shady dealings. One of them is now suing the other. I don't think they have the money to redevelop the property or the ability to gain the necessary financing to make that happen. Liens are already being put against the building. I don't think it was the mayor's call about turning off the water; she's just in the unfortunate position of being the spokesperson for the city.

[Silverfall]

$995 a month including meals is unsustainable. The owners should have shuttered it a long time ago. The closing was unethical, but no way was it going to stay open with those numbers.

Now, if the government or a non-profit wanted to purchase it and turn it into affordable housing, that would be an option.

[texasdiver]

The State of Oregon has nothing to do with this. This isn't public housing. The Nursing Home was bought by one Terry Emmert in 2022 who is this same guy profiled by Willamette Week: https://www.wweek.com/news/chasing-g...-for-16-years/

https://www.nrtoday.com/harmony-acti...a2b5246cf.html

What would you actually have the state do in this instance? Canyonville is complete Trump country. The town with for Trump +40 in the 2020 election and the surrounding rural area is Trump +54 so everyone involved from the Mayor to the developers are probably Trump Republicans. This is what they voted for. Deregulation and privatization of everything.

[Cloudy Dayz]

Originally Posted by texasdiver

The State of Oregon has nothing to do with this. This isn't public housing. The Nursing Home was bought by one Terry Emmert in 2022 who is this same guy profiled by Willamette Week: https://www.wweek.com/news/chasing-g...-for-16-years/

https://www.nrtoday.com/harmony-acti...a2b5246cf.html

What would you actually have the state do in this instance? Canyonville is complete Trump country. The town with for Trump +40 in the 2020 election and the surrounding rural area is Trump +54 so everyone involved from the Mayor to the developers are probably Trump Republicans. This is what they voted for. Deregulation and privatization of everything.

Well of course the answer is to throw all the seniors and disabled resident out on the street, and then make more stupid laws and hire more cops to try and run them out of town. Trumpers or Democrats, they are all the same. They all want to increase homelessness. Fund the police and jails and defund everything else.

[texasdiver]

Originally Posted by Cloudy Dayz

Well of course the answer is to throw all the seniors and disabled resident out on the street, and then make more stupid laws and hire more cops to try and run them out of town. Trumpers or Democrats, they are all the same. They all want to increase homelessness. Fund the police and jails and defund everything else.

The answer is not to let fraudsters buy nursing homes. But this is a private sector problem not a government problem.

What government regulation do you think would have prevented this from happening?

[ccjarider]

Originally Posted by Cloudy Dayz

This is the real reason behind homelessness in Oregon and it has absolutely nothing to do with the drug problem. This is how Oregon is creating the homeless problem, not trying to solve it.

Case in point. The Forest Glen Living Facility in Canyonville. It's an assisted living facility for senior citizens, built back in 1962. A throwback to a time when Americans actually had some compassion and thought it would be a good idea to provide facilities like this to senior citizens so they wouldn't be living on the streets.

For the last 60 plus years the slumlords who have owned the building have made a killing collecting all the rent money and investing absolutely zero back into the property. The building still has the same 1960s decor as the day it opened. But the residents don't really care, because well it's not much, but at least they are not homeless.

But the resident's happy life started to come crashing down last year, when the slumlord got fed up with the pesky state regulators and all their fines for code and care violations. So he fired the nursing staff, and hired a new management company to provide the other services. But he was still getting fined for code violations. He decided in February to pull the plug on the facility. He fired the management company with no notice whatsoever to the residents leaving them paying rent but not even having the food services they are paying for.

Apparently the slumlord thought that would get rid of the residents, so he can redevelop the property. But bad news for him. Some of the management staff continued to work for free to take care of the residents, and community service organizations started bringing food to the residents.

In mid-March it came out that the Mayor of Canyonville was in cahoots with the landlord to redevelop the property and she was not happy that the residents were still in the building. So she has ordered that water to the building be shut off in May, to force the residents out of the building. But she is probably going to be disappointed again. Because even living in a building with no water will be preferable to the residents living on the streets.

This is the future for all public housing in Oregon. Of which 99% was built in the 1960s and 70s. It's old and it will not be replaced. Eventually public housing will be a thing of the past in Oregon, and all people on low incomes will be living on the streets. Increasing the homeless population to new levels.

And that is the real reason for homelessness in Oregon. The Fentanyl "Crisis" has nothing to do with it. Oregon politicians don't want to provide housing to low income people. They want them on the streets, and that is why the homeless problem in Oregon is what it is.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSm0I2GwRbY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnMIDl4LKVA

Pretty sure the owner of a private establishment can legally close it, change it or do whatever the heck he wants to do with it. State has little say in this matter.

Try again.

[oregonwoodsmoke]

So far, Oregon still has private property rights. No one has to support dozens of indigent senior citizens out of their own pocket, beyond what their tax dollar is paying for.

The people receiving welfare and who live in government paid housing apparently won't be happy until the government seizes all real estate and hands it out to low income and the unemployed.

[Cloudy Dayz]

Originally Posted by Silverfall

$995 a month including meals is unsustainable. The owners should have shuttered it a long time ago. The closing was unethical, but no way was it going to stay open with those numbers.

Now, if the government or a non-profit wanted to purchase it and turn it into affordable housing, that would be an option.

For what it's worth they were charging $4,000 - $5,000 a month just a few years ago. Apparently the slumlord wasn't providing good enough care and services to justify those prices. So it devolved into what it is now.

Anyway I'm not sure why you think providing a room and three meals a day for $995 a month is unsustainable. The food with labor cost should be less than half of that. Probably a third. I'm not sure what the utilities for the building are but I'm pretty sure it's less than the remainder of the rent. And they sure weren't spending any money on maintenance. So the slumlord wasn't losing any money. He just wasn't making as much as he felt he should be getting, due to his bad management of the facility.

[Cloudy Dayz]

Originally Posted by ccjarider

Pretty sure the owner of a private establishment can legally close it, change it or do whatever the heck he wants to do with it. State has little say in this matter.

Try again.

Yep, he can. And Oregonians can enjoy more homeless camps on the streets.