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Old 03-13-2009, 01:36 PM
 
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Who, if you know, established these "guidelines" anyway?
No idea who established them, its just known throughout the industry as the norm, and when restaurants add gratuity onto a check (usually for parties of 6 or more) the tip amount is 15-20%
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Old 03-13-2009, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Beaverland, OR
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20% is the average for competent service.
Ummm, No.

15% is the average for competent service. 20% is the average for very good service. Next thing you know, we'll have people coming around spouting that 25% is the average for competent service. Nice try.
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:03 PM
 
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Ummm, No.

15% is the average for competent service. 20% is the average for very good service. Next thing you know, we'll have people coming around spouting that 25% is the average for competent service. Nice try.
Ummmm, no. Maybe at your local diner or burger shack the average is 15%, but at high class restaurants with professional servers the average tip is 20%
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Old 03-14-2009, 08:06 PM
 
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The US tipping culture is so stupid.

Instead of restaurants payig low wages and the servers working for tips. How about we make restaurants pay higher wages, and cut out the obligation to tip so that the consumer does not hae to pay like 15 dollars for a 12 dollar meal.

The US is one of the only countries in the world with this system.
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Old 03-14-2009, 08:19 PM
 
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The US tipping culture is so stupid.

Instead of restaurants payig low wages and the servers working for tips. How about we make restaurants pay higher wages, and cut out the obligation to tip so that the consumer does not hae to pay like 15 dollars for a 12 dollar meal.

The US is one of the only countries in the world with this system.
If the gratuity is included, it would no longer be a 12 dollar meal, but 15. The one difference is that you would be paying sales tax on the tip.
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Old 03-14-2009, 08:38 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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If the gratuity is included, it would no longer be a 12 dollar meal, but 15. The one difference is that you would be paying sales tax on the tip.
Another way to look at it: you would be paying sales tax on a meal the price of which covers the cost of doing business.
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Old 03-14-2009, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Another way to look at it is, it licenses the servers to give crappy service
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Old 03-14-2009, 08:46 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Another way to look at it is, it licenses the servers to give crappy service
There used to be a time when crappy servers were handed pink slips. What's wrong with returning to the principle of an honest day's work for an honest day's pay?
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Old 03-14-2009, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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There used to be a time when crappy servers were handed pink slips. What's wrong with returning to the principle of an honest day's work for an honest day's pay?
I absolutely have no problem with that!!!!
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Old 03-14-2009, 10:09 PM
 
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Another way to look at it: you would be paying sales tax on a meal the price of which covers the cost of doing business.
Very true, though we would end up paying more. Personally, I like the idea of not giving one more red cent to the gov.
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