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I think scouting is great and it can teach boys very good ideals and skills. But, I've got my son in cub scouts, and recently I am having second thoughts. Maybe it's just our pack and/or local peoples. The last camporee we went to was, in my honest opinion, a waste of time. For instance, in the archery, the instructors were trying to get my son to shoot left handed, he is right handed. When i tried to give my son instruction(between shoots), I was openly chastised by the archery "master" and was told to leave the archery ring. I have been hunting deer with my bow for 20 yrs now, i think my instruction was helpful... In the knot tying station, I was helping a boy(not my son) to tie a proper square not. He was tying a granny, and when I went to show him the right way , a scout leader stopped me, said "oh it's ok, it's not a big deal, the knot's fine." Well, I'm also a veterinarian, and if you suture with grannys your knots will surely unravel, so to me it IS a big deal to do it right. At such a young age their minds are like sponges, they have to be taught right.
Needless to say we left early, I'm gonna sit out of scouting for a while. I think the handbooks are great though, we will certainly put those to good use..
Sounds like a local issue. In every Cub Scout Pack and Boy Scout Troop I have had my kids in the leaders have welcomed all the help they can get. As well as a square knot is a square knot, not a granny.
I think scouting is great and it can teach boys very good ideals and skills. But, I've got my son in cub scouts, and recently I am having second thoughts. Maybe it's just our pack and/or local peoples. The last camporee we went to was, in my honest opinion, a waste of time. For instance, in the archery, the instructors were trying to get my son to shoot left handed, he is right handed. When i tried to give my son instruction(between shoots), I was openly chastised by the archery "master" and was told to leave the archery ring. I have been hunting deer with my bow for 20 yrs now, i think my instruction was helpful... In the knot tying station, I was helping a boy(not my son) to tie a proper square not. He was tying a granny, and when I went to show him the right way , a scout leader stopped me, said "oh it's ok, it's not a big deal, the knot's fine." Well, I'm also a veterinarian, and if you suture with grannys your knots will surely unravel, so to me it IS a big deal to do it right. At such a young age their minds are like sponges, they have to be taught right.
Needless to say we left early, I'm gonna sit out of scouting for a while. I think the handbooks are great though, we will certainly put those to good use..
Sounds to me like it's the people...is there another local pack you could try? I live in a fairly small town and have heard about at least 2 troops here. It's ridiculous when adults don't want to listen...I remember when I was a kid, people tried to make me do things right handed when I was a lefty...just doesn't work that way!
I think scouting is great and it can teach boys very good ideals and skills. But, I've got my son in cub scouts, and recently I am having second thoughts.
Needless to say we left early, I'm gonna sit out of scouting for a while. I think the handbooks are great though, we will certainly put those to good use..
I have been thinking about this situation a bit more this morning. Simple way around it. Get an Adult Application and fill it out along with the registration fee ($10 a year or pro-rated for the remainder of one year and into the next) and viola - you're either an extra leader, committee member, or another position that is needed. I have NEVER seen a Cub Scout Pack or Boy Scout Troop that doesn't welcome extra help with open arms. A trained, registered person is a huge plus to any Pack.
I can confirm this. I was born & raised in one of the coolest places in the world, Orange County, California where you're hard pressed to find a single awkward kid. Kids here pop out of the womb surfing & skating... scouting is only done by talent agencies. But leave it to The Boy Scouts of America to practically fabricate masses of gawky, uncomfortably long winded little kids in ill fitting, ultra dorky clothes. My husband is an Eagle Scout... He planned on having our 2 boys in scouts but dropped out after 2 weeks saying the groups he tried were filled with socially retarded adults and kids who were even more so.
Hiking, camping, survival skills... Sounds pretty cool. So what's with the parade of Napoleon Dynamite characters?
I told my husband to start his own organization... Teaching kids the aforementioned and for extra cool points throw in snowboarding and surfing and at 18 mechanics where they learn to fix classic motorcycles and cars. Boom!
I can confirm this. I was born & raised in one of the coolest places in the world, Orange County, California where you're hard pressed to find a single awkward kid. Kids here pop out of the womb surfing & skating... scouting is only done by talent agencies. But leave it to The Boy Scouts of America to practically fabricate masses of gawky, uncomfortably long winded little kids in ill fitting, ultra dorky clothes. My husband is an Eagle Scout... He planned on having our 2 boys in scouts but dropped out after 2 weeks saying the groups he tried were filled with socially retarded adults and kids who were even more so.
Hiking, camping, survival skills... Sounds pretty cool. So what's with the parade of Napoleon Dynamite characters?
I told my husband to start his own organization... Teaching kids the aforementioned and for extra cool points throw in snowboarding and surfing and at 18 mechanics where they learn to fix classic motorcycles and cars. Boom!
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