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View Poll Results: Can others contribute to another's suicide by yelling "jump"?
No, the person is mentally unstable anyway and would do it eventually, if not then 12 19.05%
Yes, their words can be the tipping point to suicide 27 42.86%
The may contribute the last straw, but have no responsibility for the decision to jump 18 28.57%
Not sure 6 9.52%
Voters: 63. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-18-2007, 05:58 PM
 
Location: SE Florida
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If a person is on a ledge about to jump and others below are yelling "jump, jump" and then that person jumps, do you think the people who yelled jump contributed to the suicide?

(sorry, bad title..another, another....)
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Old 04-18-2007, 06:04 PM
 
Location: North Dakota Farm
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In my opinion...NO. I think if a person who is attempting suicide is in that frame of mind and have that 'no other way out' tunnel vision...it won't matter what the people below will yell. However, having said that, if a person isn't 'comitted' to comitting suicide and are doing it as a cry for help, it may have an impact on them. Either way, I don't think the people below are contributors.
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Old 04-18-2007, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Marion, IN
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My mother committed suicide. I know that words pushed her back from the brink once, and words pushed her over the edge many years later.

Choose your words wisely. You never know what kind of an impact they might have on another person.
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Old 04-18-2007, 06:28 PM
 
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the person thats hollaring the loudest to jump,,,id be aiming for that bastard...
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Old 04-18-2007, 06:32 PM
 
Location: North Dakota Farm
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My mother committed suicide. I know that words pushed her back from the brink once, and words pushed her over the edge many years later.

Choose your words wisely. You never know what kind of an impact they might have on another person.
I'm SO sorry. I agree, choose your words. But I think if it's in their mind, it's gonna happen regardless, especially once they get that tunnel vision. The 'last words' whether of encouragement or not I think contribute very little to the end result. It may have an immediate impact, but the end result will be the same. Of course, this is MY opinion and is debateable.

Again, I'm sorry to hear about your mother.
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Old 04-18-2007, 06:37 PM
 
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Yes, Evey, I am truly sorry about your Mom too. I don't beleive that anyone can prevent a suicide, while words may prolong it, unless the person seeks help and medication and actually finds it, the though is always there and eventually they will seek PEACE. Mental illness is a complex thing, unless you have been exposed to it, say another family member or close friend, you can't understand. Sometimes they do seek help and nothing works for them, only making the situation more and more discouraging.
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:12 AM
 
Location: So. Dak.
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Oh Evey, I'm SO sorry to hear that. It has to be such a heartbreaking thing to have happen.

My vote is for "words being the final straw". In most cases, I don't believe that someone is driven to suicide by another, but they can contribute to someone just not being able to tolerate life anymore.
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Marion, IN
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Oh Evey, I'm SO sorry to hear that. It has to be such a heartbreaking thing to have happen.

My vote is for "words being the final straw". In most cases, I don't believe that someone is driven to suicide by another, but they can contribute to someone just not being able to tolerate life anymore.
Thanks for all of the support, both here & in all of the PMs.

I am inclined to believe that this was the case with my mother. She got to where she just didn't believe there was a reason to continue. Life was not kind to my mother, but I don't think she looked for the positives that were there. Sometimes the negatives are much easier to see.
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Old 04-20-2007, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Somewhere.
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the person thats hollaring the loudest to jump,,,id be aiming for that bastard...
Too funny.
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Old 04-20-2007, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Default so sorry-

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My mother committed suicide. I know that words pushed her back from the brink once, and words pushed her over the edge many years later.

Choose your words wisely. You never know what kind of an impact they might have on another person.

IMO they cant be driven by just one person- BUT everything has an impact. Remember the movie "Its a Wonderful Life" where the angel tells George most people dont realize the effect they've had on people- until its too late? This is so true.

I try to treat people as I would want to be treated. What goes around comes around.
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