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I didn't read most of this tread but in our house, they did chores because they lived there. They cleaned up after themselves and helped around the house because they are part of the family and I don't wear a black dress with a white apron They were not given an allowance. I had a list of extra jobs they could do to earn money though--generally harder chores...or really, stuff I hated doing like mopping floors .
Our kids start helping as soon as they were able--young, a year or so-by helping put toys in the toy box when they were done and working up from there. They actually did more in elementary school ages then high school because they were busy with school, homework, etc. but in the summers they were 100% responsible for keeping the house clean and doing laundry. They each picked a level of the house and it was their job to keep that level clean each week. They picked a new level each week on a rotating basis. That is as close to a "chart" as they got because they learned early on that they didn't get to play until their room was cleaned up
They are all college students or older now and are very responsible kids--and actually keep their dorm rooms fairly clean
How many kids get scholarships out of their extracurriculars?
Your anecdotes doesn't count for any more than Mattie's do.
A lot of kids--and don't forget that it's not just sports. Both of our kids got scholarships for extracurriculars, one sports, but also music, volunteer work and being active in their church (technically no, those are extracurriculars--I know). All of their friends got academic scholarships of various sizes, as did our kids--which are substantially more than their other scholarships though. No, the full-ride football scholarships are few and far between though...but $2000 here, $2000 there and it adds up
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Actually, the scholarships my kids got from their colleges did not specify exactly why they got them. We just figured it was grades primarily, plus school activities (NHS, etc) and then maybe outside activities such as church and scouts. Ironically, my older daughter actually got a scholarship from her employer as well!
Financial aid scholarships are not the same thing....true merit scholarships will have specifics for what the award is for--grades, music performance, whatever....they aren't just random.
A lot of kids--and don't forget that it's not just sports. Both of our kids got scholarships for extracurriculars, one sports, but also music, volunteer work and being active in their church (technically no, those are extracurriculars--I know). All of their friends got academic scholarships of various sizes, as did our kids--which are substantially more than their other scholarships though. No, the full-ride football scholarships are few and far between though...but $2000 here, $2000 there and it adds up
Financial aid scholarships are not the same thing....true merit scholarships will have specifics for what the award is for--grades, music performance, whatever....they aren't just random.
Where did I say my kids got scholarships for financial aid? Be specific.
When they got a scholarship for "no reason" from their schools....
That's not specific and you are wrong! We would have been happy to qualify for fin. aid but we didn't. I didn't say "no reason", either. The letters were not specific. Scholarship usually presumes academic merit.
That's not specific and you are wrong! We would have been happy to qualify for fin. aid but we didn't. I didn't say "no reason", either. The letters were not specific. Scholarship usually presumes academic merit.
There's ALWAYS a reason for a scholarship. When one applies for it, the paperwork tells you what the requirements are! There are plenty of scholarships out there that are not merit based.
I never said either of those things. You appear to have some sort of issue where you feel the need to assign meaning to my words instead if reading what I actually wrote.
Sometimes teachers can have more information about children than their parents do with regards to specific situations, the exact same way their doctors or peers can. I don't know why that equates to "counting more" in your head but that is clearly YOUR issue.
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Completely misconstrued my point. Which is and remains, that it is foolish to think that only through working a minimum wage job can children learn a work ethic AND that children clearly know what matters most to their parents and if you emphasize working for a wage as most important, than that is exactly what you can expect in return.
Asking people their end goal for their children is a known method for getting them to think about what they actually want from and for their children. There is frequently a disconnect for many of us about our short term and long term goals for our children.
You said what you said, and you implied that my opinion was somehow meaningless. I just pointed out that your opinion is just an opinion, also. And where did anyone say anything about working for a wage being "most important?"
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I'd love some stats on what percentage of kids get scholarships from their extracurriculars, and how much they are. A few people have indicated that "a lot" of kids get them. Numbers? Of all the kids on a given sports team, how many get a college scholarship out of it? Not many, I think.
Baby steps. Teach them to do small things. Every day they should have some chores. Not big ones, but enough for them to learn how to do a job and do it well.
That being said, I think paying your children to do chores is a bad, bad idea. They are just expected to do that to play their role in the family. Mom and Dad don't get paid, so neither should a son or a daughter. If you want to couch things in terms of earning an allowance, that's acceptable. But if you pay for individual chores, you'll just wind up negotiating the price on every single thing you ask them to do.
A quick google search tells me that 2% of HS athletes go on to play in college (i.e. get a scholarship). Obviously there are other activities and other types of scholarships, but 2% is not "a lot."
You said what you said, and you implied that my opinion was somehow meaningless. I just pointed out that your opinion is just an opinion, also. And where did anyone say anything about working for a wage being "most important?"
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I'd love some stats on what percentage of kids get scholarships from their extracurriculars, and how much they are. A few people have indicated that "a lot" of kids get them. Numbers? Of all the kids on a given sports team, how many get a college scholarship out of it? Not many, I think.
Again, extracurriculars are not just sports. Our son got a scholarship for band, some friends kid got a scholarship for speech--heck, she got 1/2 merit, 1/2 speech so she isn't paying a dime for school . Looking at the 50 or so kids our kids hung out with in high school, all of them got either merit or a scholarship for an EC, or both. Size of the awards vary from $500 to full-rides. For our daughter's sports team, every senior in the past 8 years has been offered a scholarship. They didn't all take them because they were not all interested in playing in college. Our high school soccer team, which is so-so, usually has a handful of kids get scholarships at the DI or DII level. Basketball, girls, usually have 2 kids get scholarships--out of 3 or 4 seniors--each year, usually at the DII level but a few at the DI level. I know of volleyball teams that the entire senior class gets scholarship offers....it just depends. Keep in mind that it's not just the football teams you see on tv that give scholarships too, DI, DII and NAIA all give scholarships and there are 2000+ colleges that fall into those classes...that's a lot of scholarships. Our daughter's offers ranged from $2500-$15,000 depending on the school....
Now, lets talk about extracurriculars outside of sports....music, forensics, student government
Not to mention scholarships for NMF, etc.
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They were not given an allowance. I had a list of extra jobs they could do to earn money though--generally harder chores...or really, stuff I hated doing like mopping floors 
