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Old 08-26-2014, 09:36 PM
 
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Settle down.

Slovenly was used as an obvious negative to describe one side of the same coin.

I dont know what makes a weight challenged kid go from victim to victimizer or decide to be a bully vs bullied but hopefully the article/study cited above will be a start to sorting that out.
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Old 08-26-2014, 10:05 PM
 
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Interesting study. I imagine it's a rather vicious cycle - they're bullied because of their weight, and then in turn, they take it out on others.

Either way, I always feel really bad for overweight kids.
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Old 08-26-2014, 11:44 PM
 
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The study determined that children develop this behavior before they even start school. That means being the victim of bullying at school isn't the cause. It also says that overweight children are more likely to be victims and bullies than thinner peers. That means the thinner peers are less likely to be bullies or victims.

The article has one sentence speculating that bullies decide to be bullies after being victims. That's illogical since the study determined these behaviors existed prior to starting school. If it is true, who was bullying them before they became school aged? Their families?

Past research indicated that people who are overweight have difficulty with their emotions and have abnormal eating behaviors. This study identifying these issues at a significantly younger age indicates that the root of these emotional and eating problems occur before they are school aged. IMO, it's pointing to families---environment and/or mental health genetics.

I think the conclusion hit the mark: the key is building self esteem and apparently that needs to start at a very young age.

But I wish the article elaborated more on this part of the study it mentions:

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Lead researcher Pauline Jansen and her colleagues at Erasmus University Rotterdam took into account other factors that might increase the risk of bullying or being bullied. Those factors included age, sex, national origin and mother's level of education, as well as whether the child had siblings or lived with a single parent.
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Old 08-27-2014, 07:19 AM
 
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I would think the overweight kids would more than likely be the victim instead of instigators of bullying.
They are. From the article, "Dutch researchers report that obese boys are more likely to bully and be bullied than their thinner peers"
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Old 08-27-2014, 08:04 AM
 
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Thinking back I had as many skinny bullies as heavy ones. As for me, I was a skinny-Minnie.
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Old 08-27-2014, 05:33 PM
 
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That makes sense to me. Fat kids have more weight to throw around.
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Old 08-28-2014, 06:21 PM
 
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Ugh. I've seen fat bullies, skinny bullies, tall bullies, short bullies, dirty bullies, clean bullies....

There is no physical description for an abusive person.
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Old 08-29-2014, 04:44 AM
 
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Bullies feel like crap about themselves and it makes them feel better by making others feel bad. That about sums it up.

Kids have to decide not to be bullied also. Give them plenty of reasons to be happy about themselves.

When kids refuse to be bullied, the bullies move on.
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Old 08-29-2014, 10:52 AM
 
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Bullies feel like crap about themselves and it makes them feel better by making others feel bad. That about sums it up.

Kids have to decide not to be bullied also. Give them plenty of reasons to be happy about themselves.

When kids refuse to be bullied, the bullies move on.
Psychologists used to believe bullies had low self-esteem, but new studies show that is not the case. Bullies are motivated by power.

Do Bully's Have Low Self-Esteem? - The Bully Proof Classroom

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Bullies usually have a sense of entitlement and superiority over others, and lack compassion, impulse control and social skills. They enjoy being cruel to others and sometimes use bullying as an anger management tool, the way a normally angry person would punch a pillow. Research does support the fact that bullies have low empathy, and they really don’t know how it feels to be in someone else’s shoes.
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Old 08-29-2014, 12:03 PM
 
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Psychologists used to believe bullies had low self-esteem, but new studies show that is not the case. Bullies are motivated by power.

Do Bully's Have Low Self-Esteem? - The Bully Proof Classroom
From the article you linked, the following matches exactly what Jersey posted: bullies have low self esteem and they use bullying to improve their self esteem.

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As long as the bully is able to manipulate another person or a situation, his/her self-esteem remains high. Once a bully loses control of their victim, or realizes that they canít manipulate situations to their liking they begin to experience problems with their self esteem and they will then seek out other people to manipulate and control to raise their self-esteem. It almost becomes an emotional fix that they need in order to feel good about themselves.

Do Bully's Have Low Self-Esteem? - The Bully Proof Classroom
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Bullies feel like crap about themselves and it makes them feel better by making others feel bad. That about sums it up.
As a result, bullies need to learn healthier ways to improve their self esteem.

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In working with the bully we need to help the bully find things that will help him keep a consistent self-esteem index.

Do Bully's Have Low Self-Esteem? - The Bully Proof Classroom
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