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Old 07-09-2015, 07:52 AM
 
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When I clicked on this, I thought the kids involved were going to be older. But, locking up a 9 yr old?
Shouldn't the children have some say in whether or not they want to see their father?

https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/kids...579270182.html
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Old 07-09-2015, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Denver area
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Wow. That's abuse of judicial power in my opinion.
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Old 07-09-2015, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Wow that's messed up.
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Old 07-09-2015, 08:13 AM
 
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It's also horrifying to me that they won't even have a hearing until September. The custodial parent should be facing the judge here, for not following the custody agreement.

I'd love to hear from some non-custodial dads as to whether they support this judge's actions.
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Old 07-09-2015, 08:22 AM
 
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That is beyond bizarre. Especially that they're in detention until they're 18- what crime have they committed ? This is civil not criminal. Is something missing in this story ? The children's lives are being ruined.
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Old 07-09-2015, 08:48 AM
 
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That judge needs to go. Everyone has seen men or women who are really good at playing victim and manipulating the situation to the detriment of the other parent and the kids. This mom may or may not have done that. The dad may or may not be a deadbeat. The judge could have court ordered supervised visitation with the dad. Putting the kids in detention until they are 18 was wrong and not in their best interest.
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Old 07-09-2015, 10:48 AM
 
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I was completely sickened by this when I read it. I know the kind of damage those places can do to kids who don't belong there (and even the ones who DO belong there), and this is insane, not just bizarre.

An obvious solution is that the judge could have mandated counseling (garnished it from the mother's wages) and had the children escorted by a child services worker. Or if he truly believes this to be a case of egregious parental alienation, he could have terminated the mother's parental rights - I mean if it really is so extreme, then the mother has basically been abusive. There were so many other solutions. But punishing the minor children in this case? It's really just pure depravity on the judge's part.

The fact that the father doesn't seem to be objecting is what freaks me out the most though. If he's really prioritizing reuniting with his children and their welfare, he has to recognize that this is not going to help his case and could cause deep psychological damage. The fact that he hasn't vocally stepped up to protest is just as depraved to me, and to be frank, strategically stupid. He had a chance to defend his children and prove his paternal chops and he didn't. (Of course, why didn't the mother just step up and tell them it was time to spend a lunch with their father? But again, this is a parental issue, not a child issue.)

Honestly, I am horrified by this to the point that I wish I hadn't even clicked on the story on such a busy workday. It's going to be on my mind a lot.
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Old 07-09-2015, 10:53 AM
 
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If you read this particular article (and I did not pick up that the judge was a woman in my initial reading), it is even more horrifying in terms of details.

Judge compares Bloomfield Hills children to Charles Manson, sends them to Children’s Village for refusing to speak with father
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Old 07-09-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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And in this story, it is appears that the mother is the one who should be imprisoned, NOT the children.

So many other solutions than the one this judge went with.


Omer Tsimhoni, Whose Kids Were Put in Juvenile Detention | Observer

I gotta go do some work. Still upset though...
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Old 07-09-2015, 01:01 PM
 
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Wow, surprised it was a female judge. Hard to believe a woman would make this kind of ruling IMO.

Still this just goes to show how very little faith I have in judges and their ability to judge.
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