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I feel like the rating system is all a moot point, given the video games that kids can get their hands on these days. I mean, yes, a parent can attempt to control what they see, but if they go over to a friend's house, it could be all over. I let my 14 year old play Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto and he has been for a couple years, but I'm just one of those liberal parents. I don't believe in shielding kids from the real world. Frankly, it's annoying to me when I try to buy him and his friends movie tickets for rated R movies and I'm told I have to watch it with them. Why??
"Grand Theft Auto" represents the real world? Yikes. I wouldn't want to live in that world, and if I did, I would do everything I could to escape. It's a horrible game and one that I've told my kids they will NEVER see enter our house.
You are expected to watch rated R movies with them because "R" means Restricted with no one under 17 admitted without an accompanying parent or guardian. It's what the rating means. That's why you are expected to view it with them.
I am a fan of Deadpool but I imagine it will be higher than 4.7.5. on the MPAA rating scale. There is a sex scene in the redband (rated R) trailer as well as a strip club (with Stan Lee as the DJ.) There is a LOT of cursing in the redband trailer including f-bombs. There is also a LOT of violence including blood and even a bullet flying through three thugs head straight on in succession. Granted this is par for the course with Deadpool comic (in particularly the Marvel-MAX run) but I would try to tell your 12 year old that this is a graphic movie that you will let her see in the house but can't in good conscious let her see it in theaters.
Definitely sounds like she won't be seeing it anytime soon. I hadn't taken time to watch the redband trailer for it - but from what you said, it's definitely too adult for her.
You would rather watch them kill people then see a nude person ?
It's fascinating...
The hero of the story can flippantly gun down scores of people, but since they're the 'bad guys' it's fine - and it doesn't emotionally affect the hero one bit. Legions of parents see no problem with this portrayal.
But a nipple makes a 1.5-second appearance? For many of the same parents, then it's hair-on-fire time...
The hero of the story can flippantly gun down scores of people, but since they're the 'bad guys' it's fine - and it doesn't emotionally affect the hero one bit. Legions of parents see no problem with this portrayal.
But a nipple makes a 1.5-second appearance? For many of the same parents, then it's hair-on-fire time...
I completely agree, but the rep was for the graphic!
That don't sound hypocritical to me at all. You know your children.
Thanks for the support. My brother's wife says "no" to both sex and violence based R movies for their children. Sometimes I feel like I should do likewise, but in the end, I think it is far easier to teach that violence is pretend than sex.
Thanks for the support. My brother's wife says "no" to both sex and violence based R movies for their children. Sometimes I feel like I should do likewise, but in the end, I think it is far easier to teach that violence is pretend than sex.
Bingo.
I'd have a problem with either (I'm very uncomfortable with depictions of violence or suffering), and I worry that seeing too many dehumanizing depictions of violence will lead to a callous disregard for suffering of anyone who is an 'other,' someone outside of our regular social sphere. See, for example, everyone who treats the wave of refugees in Europe as subhuman people who don't belong for whatever stupid reason. I want my kid to treat all humans as valuable, and the way movies tend to divide people into important people whose suffering matters and unimportant people whose suffering is amusing bothers me a lot.
More than that, though, I think movie depictions of sex are a more insidious problem. People say it doesn't hurt them, but is that really true? Movies teach kids that part of the role of women is to provide visual stimulation for men. They normalize trashiness and other kinds of bad or dangerous behavior.
While media aren't the only source of blame for this, I suspect that they are a major part of the problem, given how they affect people during their formative years.
If you're a woman, you probably already know the degree to which your average man holds absolutely disgusting views about women. If you're a man, you probably know but don't necessarily think about it too much, since all of the nasty, objectifying comments aren't aimed at you. At times, it seems like the majority of discourse on the internet has severe misogynistic elements to it. Any thread on Reddit that involves a woman in any way will include sexual comments, innuendo, and other awful stuff, sometimes aimed at famous people (note the gendered insults tossed at any woman who is a political candidate or business leader) and sometimes aimed directly at users who are suspected of not being male.
Women are considered toys in our society, and most movies that involve sex reinforce this view. It's horrifying.
Heck, I've noticed that even when movies don't directly involve nudity or anything like that, they tend to use deliberately chosen camera angles and poses and wardrobes to treat the women in them like candy to be consumed by the male audience. Next time you watch a movie allegedly made for adults, look at how often the camera pans to the women's posteriors or chests. I don't want my daughter to feel that it's her responsibility to be a piece of meat.
So, to a large extent, while movie violence is sometimes just pretend and sometimes subtly harmful, movie sex is almost always bad, though people often forget that it's bad because it doesn't hurt everyone in the same way or to the same degree.
For me, context of the content that resulted in the rating was hugely important in determining whether a movie was appropriate. If I felt the sex/violence/whatever was appropriate to the context (not simply gratuitous) and that my child was old enough to understand the content, then I was much more likely to ok the movie (and watch it with them).
The hero of the story can flippantly gun down scores of people, but since they're the 'bad guys' it's fine - and it doesn't emotionally affect the hero one bit. Legions of parents see no problem with this portrayal.
But a nipple makes a 1.5-second appearance? For many of the same parents, then it's hair-on-fire time...
Americans are funny creatures really. We are an overly sexed up culture, but complete prudes as well.
There are two different reasons why movies are rated R. One, because if portrays people who hate each other, relating with graphic violence. The other, because it shows people who love each other, relating with graphic affection.
And we lump them both together, and indiscriminately justify the R-rating with the odd oxymoron "sex/violence". And we ask at what age it is OK for children to see this "sex/violence".
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My brother's wife says "no" to both sex and violence based R movies for their children. Sometimes I feel like I should do likewise, but in the end, I think it is far easier to teach that violence is pretend than sex.
